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[Special Board Meeting on January 7, 2026.]

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JANUARY 7TH AT 3:30 P.M. AT THIS TIME, I PLEASE ASK THAT EVERYONE MUTE YOUR DEVICE TO AVOID INTERRUPTIONS UNTIL CALLED UPON. WE COULD PLEASE TAKE A ROLL CALL. MRS. PERRY.

HERE, MR. SEWELL. I'M HERE. COULD YOU HEAR ME? I'M HERE. YEAH, I CAN HEAR YOU. AND? AND IT MUST HAVE JUST DONE SOMETHING THAT POPPED UP. DISCLAIMER. AND I THINK EVERYONE WENT ON MUTE, SO, YVONNE, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO COME OFF OF MUTE NOW. I THINK THE RECORDING OF THE MEETING. YEAH. I THINK AGAIN SOMETHING HAPPENED, THE RECORDING STARTED AND IT JUST TRIPPED EVERYTHING. SO WHO GOT KICKED OUT? MARK. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, YVONNE, YOU CAN CONTINUE WITH ROLL CALL, PLEASE. OKAY, I'M GOING TO ACTUALLY RESTART. SO, MRS. PERRY. MRS. PERRY. YEAH. LAST TIME. OKAY, I SEE DENISE. SHE'S HERE VIRTUALLY. MR. SEWELL, I'M HERE. DOCTOR MUELLER, PRESENT. MR. MCVICKER. HERE. MR. KORN, PRESENT. MRS. HAHN. MR. PRESENT.

MISS BRUCE HERE. MRS. ALVAREZ. MRS. ALVAREZ. LET'S COME BACK TO IT. OKAY. VICE PRESIDENT PAGE HERE. PRESIDENT BOYNTON HERE. MR. ZUCKER. I'LL GO BACK TO MRS. ALVAREZ. I SEE YOU'RE ON, BUT YOU ARE MUTED. CAN YOU PLEASE UNMUTE? I'M. I'M HERE. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. ZUCKER.

ALL RIGHT. LET THE RECORD REFLECT THAT SHE IS TEXTED THAT SHE IS HERE BUT UNABLE TO UNMUTE. AND IF IT IS ON HERE, IF YOU COULD HELP HER UNMUTE OR UNMUTE HER MANUALLY. AND IN THE MEANTIME, I WILL MOVE ON WITH THE NEXT ACTION ITEM. BEFORE I GET INTO WHETHER OR NOT TO WAIVE PUBLIC COMMENT. OKAY, I GOT IT. DIANE. TREY, OUR STUDENT MEMBER, HAS ASKED WHETHER OR NOT HE COULD PARTICIPATE IN THE CLOSED SESSION. IT IS UNUSUAL, BUT IT, ON THE OTHER HAND, IS ALSO PERMITTED BY LAW UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, INCLUDING HE CAN ATTEND AS AN OBSERVER ONLY WITH A MOTION A SECOND AND THE A MAJORITY VOTE OF THE BOARD. AND SO HE IS ENTITLED TO THAT RIGHT AS LONG. THAT'S HOW I UNDERSTAND IT. IS THAT RIGHT, GREG? OKAY, I, I'M LOOKING I'M READING YOUR LIPS. I THINK YOU SAID YES. THAT'S RIGHT. OKAY.

AND I'M GOING TO LET DIANE BACK IN HERE. OKAY. GREAT. SO IS THERE A MOTION OR A SECOND TO SUPPORT TREY'S REQUEST? THIS IS WADE. AND I MOVE THAT WE ALLOW TREY TO ATTEND THE CLOSED SESSION. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. YVONNE, PLEASE DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE. MRS. PERRY. YES.

HERE. MR. SEWELL. YES, DOCTOR. MUELLER. YES. MR. CORN PRESIDENT, I HAVE NO OBJECTION.

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IT WOULD NEED TO BE A YES OR A NO. SO I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT'S A YES. WELL, YOU COULD YOU CAN ASSUME. YES. THANK YOU, MRS. HAHN. NO. MISS BRUCE. YES, MRS. ALVAREZ? NO. VICE PRESIDENT PAIGE. YES. PRESIDENT. BOYNTON. YES. MOTION PASSES. SEVEN TWO. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO, TREY, WHEN WE GO INTO CLOSED SESSION, I DO NOT BELIEVE THERE IS A SEPARATE LINK, IS THERE? THIS WILL CONTINUE INTO CLOSED SESSION. IS THAT RIGHT, YVONNE? I DON'T BELIEVE SO. OKAY, SO IT'S IT'S GOING TO GO RIGHT INTO THE IT'S GOING TO GO RIGHT INTO THE CLOSED SESSION OKAY.

SO SO TREY I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO DO ANYTHING. BUT IF FOR SOME REASON YOU GET KICKED OFF OR SOMETHING JUST LET US KNOW. SO YOU YOU HAVE BEEN VOTED INTO THE CLOSED SESSION. BUT JUST A REMINDER THAT ALL THE SAME CONFIDENTIALITY RULES APPLY TO YOU. YOU'RE PRIMARILY AN OBSERVER AND WILL NOT BE ABLE TO VOTE. OKAY, UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY, MELISSA, HOLD ON ONE SECOND. MELISSA HAS HER HAND UP. GO AHEAD. MELISSA I THINK SHE HAD HER HAND UP FIRST AND THEN DIANE. GO AHEAD. SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THE STATUTE THAT SAYS IF THE BOARD VOTES THAT HE IS ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE BECAUSE PER 36-801, IT STATES THAT THE STUDENT MEMBER IS NOT ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN DISCIPLINE OR EMPLOYEE ISSUES.

AND I WOULD CONSIDER THAT THIS CLOSED SESSION IS EXACTLY THAT. YEAH, I MEAN, WE CAN LOOK IT UP HERE QUICKLY, BUT HE'S NOT PARTICIPATING. HE'S OBSERVING. GREG, DO YOU HAVE THE THE LAW OPEN? HE'S LOOKING IT UP. GIVE ME A SECOND. I HAD PREVIOUSLY LOOKED THIS UP TOO, BECAUSE TREY ACTUALLY ASKED ABOUT THIS A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO. SO I RESEARCHED IT AND RAN IT BY COUNSEL AND AND UNRELATED TO THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST. I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THIS? WHAT WAS THE CITATION? WHAT WAS THE CITATION? THAT YOU'RE LOOKING IT UP IN A SECOND. IT'S 3-6A HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON 3-6. DASH A0101. AND AND IT'S ON. IT'S NUMBER EIGHT. AND IT SAYS THAT THE STUDENT MEMBER. UNLESS THE INVITED TO ATTEND WHICH I MEAN I DON'T KNOW, IT SAYS THAT THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PARTICIPATE IN EMPLOYEE DISCIPLINE AND OR OTHER APPEALS.

YEAH. SO I THINK THAT'S A GENERAL RULE. BUT THERE IS AN EXCEPTION WHERE HE COULD BE VOTED IN. BUT GIVE ME A SECOND. WE'LL WE'LL FIND IT. AND GREG'S LOOKING FORWARD AS WELL IF, IF I COULD PROVIDE SOME. SO I'M LOOKING AT THE SAME ARTICLE. IF YOU'RE LOOKING I'M LOOKING AT THE SAME ARTICLE THAT YOU ARE MELISSA. 36801 IF YOU LOOK AT IF YOU LOOK AT LOOK AT NUMBER THREE AND THEN THE LITTLE TWO ROMAN NUMERALS UNDERNEATH OF THAT, IT SAYS UNLESS INVITED BY, UNLESS INVITED TO ATTEND BY AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE OF A MAJORITY OF THE COUNTY BOARD. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS WOULD FALL UNDER THE STUDENT. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE VOTED ON, THOUGH. WE DIDN'T VOTE TO INVITE YOU. IT WAS IT WAS IT WAS AN OBJECTION. BUT I THINK THAT VOTE HAS TO BE RETAKEN IN LIGHT OF THE STATUTE. SO WHY DON'T WE LOOK UP THE STATUTE OF THE COMAR, THE REGULATION AND TAKE A LOOK JUST SO THAT YOU'RE NOT YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT YOU TO BE IN TROUBLE, AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE IN TROUBLE. HAVING YOU IN THE PLACE WHERE YOU OUGHT NOT TO BE.

SO GIVE US JUST A MOMENT. OKAY? WELL, GREG, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IT, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE TREY. WERE YOU REFERENCING THREE? 305 TITLE THREE OPEN MEETINGS ACT PERMISSIBLE PURPOSES FOR A CLOSED MEETING. ONE SECOND I WAS PURELY REFERENCING THE EDUCATION ARTICLE THAT OUTLINES THE THE DUTIES AND PERMISSIONS OF DIFFERENT MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF ED, SPECIFICALLY UNDER THE STUDENT MEMBERS POSITION. YEAH, I KNOW THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY RESEARCHED AND ALLOWED. I JUST DON'T HAVE IT AT MY FINGERTIPS. GIVE US A SECOND TO FIND IT. DIANE HAS HER HAND UP TWICE. YOU MIGHT WANT TO SEE IF SHE IS SORRY.

WELL, YEAH, WELL, WE'RE LOOKING THAT UP, DIANE. GO AHEAD. OR WAS THAT YOUR QUESTION AS WELL?

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AND DIANE YOU'RE STILL MUTED. YEAH. MY COMPUTER SEEMS TO BE UNABLE TO DO CERTAIN THINGS.

AND I WAS WONDERING IF IT HAS LOOKED INTO THAT ISSUE OKAY. WHAT ARE YOU NOT ABLE TO DO OTHER THAN FOR SOME REASON WE HEAR EVERYTHING LIKE TWICE NOW. THERE WE GO. OKAY. OH, YOU'RE ON HERE TWICE. NO WONDER. OKAY, WELL, YOU CAN HEAR US, RIGHT? AND WE CAN HEAR YOU. CAN YOU HEAR US? OKAY. DIANE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YEAH, WE CAN HEAR YOU. JUST GIVE US A SECOND. WE'RE LOOKING THIS UP. YEAH. I'M ABLE TO UNMUTE MY LAPTOP. OKAY? OKAY. AND I WOULD PREFER TO BE ON MY LAPTOP THAN MY PHONE. SOUNDS ALL RIGHT, YVONNE, WHILE WE'RE LOOKING THIS UP, CAN YOU JUST PING DREW OR IT AND SEE IF SOMEONE CAN CALL HER AND TRY TO RESOLVE THIS WHILE WE'RE WORKING ON THIS, I GOT THE STATUTE UP. OKAY. SO SO THE VOTE, WHAT WAS THE VOTE? THE THE VOTE. IT SAYS IT IS MARYLAND EDUCATIONAL CODE ANNOTATED 36801. SO IT'S A STATUTE. AND IT SAYS THAT A STUDENT MEMBER OF THE HARFORD COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION IS GENERALLY PROHIBITED FROM ATTENDING CLOSED SESSIONS, ADDRESSING ON MATTERS IN WHICH THE STUDENT MEMBER IS NOT PERMITTED TO VOTE. THIS INCLUDES DISCIPLINARY MATTERS AND EMPLOYEE DISCIPLINE AND OTHER APPEALS UNDER THE MARYLAND EDUCATIONAL CODE ANNOTATED. 4205C AND DISCIPLINE OF CERTIFIED STAFF UNDER 6202. IT SAYS THE STUDENT MAY ATTEND IF INVITED. SO THERE IS TO BE AN INVITATION. NOT A NOT A NOT A. IT HAS TO BE COUCHED IN THOSE TERMS. HOWEVER, FEDERAL LAW, SPECIFICALLY THE FERPA, ALSO PLAYS INTO, YOU KNOW, A ROLE IN DETERMINING THE ACCESS TO THE CLOSED SESSION INVOLVING STUDENT DISCIPLINE INVOLVING CERTAIN DISCIPLINARY MATTERS. BUT YES, IT SEEMS TO INDICATE THAT YOU CAN ATTEND IF, IF. IF INVITED BY BY A MAJORITY. SO I THINK IF YOU WANT TO RECAST THE VOTE, AS YOU KNOW, ARE WE MAKING IT IS AN INVITATION TO COMPLY WITH THE STATUTORY LANGUAGE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE. DON'T YOU AGREE? YOU'RE MUTED. IT'S CLEAR. IT'S CLEAR WHAT THE STATUTE SAYS. AND IT SAYS UNLESS INVITED. SO YOU KNOW WHETHER YOU WANT TO REVOTE AND ISSUE IT AS AN INVITATION TO ATTEND THIS SESSION. FOR THE RECORD, JUST TO CLARIFY THE RECORD IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATUTE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE ADVISABLE. WELL, IT WASN'T I'M SORRY IT WASN'T WHITE GUYS, WE'RE WE'RE I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO BE PRECISE, BUT IT WASN'T THE ORIGINAL MOTION AND REQUEST FOR FOR HIM TO ATTEND THE CLOSED SESSION. WHAT AM I MISSING HERE OTHER THAN WE JUST WASTED 15 MINUTES? AARON. AARON. I MEAN, WE CAN IF YOU WANT TO MOVE ON.

I HAVE ANOTHER MOTION TO MAKE. WELL. WELL, LET'S. WHAT DID I MISS FROM THE ORIGINAL MOTION, THE LANGUAGE IS VERY SPECIFIC, AND BOTH THE ATTORNEY ON THE BOARD AND THE ATTORNEY FOR THE BOARD HAS INDICATED THAT THE LANGUAGE SHOULD BE CHANGED AND A VOTE RECAST, FOR WHATEVER REASON. YOU'RE OBJECTING TO BOTH BOTH ATTORNEYS INTERPRETATION OF THE STATUTE.

IS THERE A REASON FOR THAT, MR. BOYNTON? DOCTOR POINT, THEN YOU'RE NOT ACTING AS AN ATTORNEY FOR US. GREG IS OUR ATTORNEY, AND ALL I'M SIMPLY ASKING FOR IS WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL MOTION THAT WAS MADE? BECAUSE WE BOTH GAVE OUR HE GAVE HIS OPINION. I GAVE MY OPINION. AND SO YOU'RE TAKING ISSUE WITH IT. SO I'M NOT TAKING ISSUE WITH IT. I'M ASKING WHAT WAS THE INITIAL WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL MOTION? IT WAS NOT ATTACHED AS AN INVITATION. THAT WAS THE POINT. OKAY. WE MAY NOT HAVE USED THE TERM INVITATION, SO WE'LL ACCEPT THE MOTION. YEAH, WE'LL ACCEPT THE MOTION. AND A SECOND. SECOND, I'D LIKE TO JUST CORRECT A MOTION THAT I MADE. DOES THAT WORK? YEAH, THAT'S PROBABLY FINE. YEAH. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO CHANGE THE LANGUAGE TO THAT. I INVITE MR. MCVICKER TO JOIN US IN THE CLOSED SESSION.

THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. YVONNE CAN DO A ROLL CALL. VOTE.

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MRS. PERRY. YES, MR. SEWELL? YES. DOCTOR. MUELLER. YES, MR. CORN, NO. MRS. HAHN. NO. MISS.

BRUCE. MISS. BRUCE. BRUCE. MISS. BRUCE. BRUCE. YES. MRS. ALVAREZ? NO, NO. VICE PRESIDENT. PAIGE.

YES, PRESIDENT. BOYNTON. YES. THIS MOTION IS SIX THREE. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO, TREY, SAME SAME CONDITIONS WILL APPLY. THANK YOU. OKAY. WILL ENTERTAIN ANOTHER MOTION TO WAIVE PUBLIC COMMENT IN ITS ENTIRETY. AND THE LIMITED NATURE OF THE SPECIAL OPEN SESSION. THIS IS AND AND I'M PRESENT THE MOTION THAT WE WAIVE PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE A SECOND SECOND. THIS IS MRS. ROLL CALL. VOTE JUST ON. MRS. PERRY. YES. MR. SEWELL. YES, DOCTOR. MUELLER. YES. MR. MCVICKER. YES. MR. CORN NO. MRS. HAHN NO. MISS. BRUCE. MISS BRUCE. YES, YES, YES. MISS ALVAREZ. NO, NO. VICE PRESIDENT PAIGE. YES. PRESIDENT. BOYNTON. YES. THIS MOTION SEVEN THREE.

STUDENT MEMBER VOTE DOES NOT COUNT. IT WAS JUST PREFERENTIAL. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO, THE POTENTIAL CLOSED SESSION, THE BASIS FOR THE CLOSED SESSION IS TO PRESERVE THE PRIVACY AND CONFIDENTIALITY REGARDING A PERSONNEL MATTER AND TO CONSULT WITH LEGAL COUNSEL AND OBTAIN LEGAL ADVICE PURSUANT TO SECTION 3-305B17 OF THE GENERAL PROVISIONS OF ARTICLE CODE OF MARYLAND. THE CHAIR WILL NOW ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE SESSION. WELL.

WELL, BEFORE I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION IN OPEN SESSION PRIOR TO PRIOR TO CLOSING THE SESSION. OKAY. I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT YOUR SESSION OR YOUR MOTION WAS FOR THE OTHER THING. OH. GO AHEAD. WELL, I MEAN WELL. I DO I DO IT WHEN YOU SAY YOU THOUGHT MY MOTION IS FOR THE OTHER THING, I'M NOT SURE WHAT TO WHICH MOTION YOU'RE REFERRING, BUT I DO. I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THIS BE PART OF THE PUBLIC, PART OF THE PART OF THE HEARING.

AND I. AND I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE BOARD APPROVE THE CONDUCT, THE CONDUCT AND FUNDING OF AN INVESTIGATION TO DETERMINE WHETHER ANY MEMBER OF OF THE HERTFORD COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION OR OFFICIALS, EMPLOYEES. BOARD MEMBERS ENGAGE IN ACTS OF MALFEASANCE, MISFEASANCE AND OR NONFEASANCE IN OFFICE WHILE SERVING AS IN THEIR OFFICIAL CAPACITY, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS. AND I'D ALSO MOVE THAT WE APPOINT BOTH DIANNE ALVAREZ AND ALSO MELISSA HAHN AS BOARD REPRESENTATIVES TO SELECT, INTERFACE WITH, AND GUIDE SUCH INVESTIGATION AND FOR THE NON-RENEWAL OF DOCTOR OLSEN'S CONTRACT OF EMPLOYMENT AS A SUPERINTENDENT. AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE PUBLIC SESSION AS WELL AS THE I SECOND THE MOTION. WELL, LET ME JUST TAKE A PAUSE HERE BECAUSE I WANT TO GET THERE. THERE WAS A LOT IN THAT MOTION, AND I THINK THAT SOME ISSUES OF THAT MOTION CAN BE ADDRESSED AND BRIEFED TO THE BOARD AS TO WHAT IS ALREADY UNDERWAY IN CLOSED SESSION.

ADDITIONALLY, I BELIEVE THAT SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU ARE YOU HAVE BROUGHT FORTH, SUCH AS THE CONTRACT OF THE SUPERINTENDENT, ETCETERA, ARE ISSUES THAT ARE COVERED UNDER CLOSED SESSION. SO I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER TO GREG AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE MOTION IS AN

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ACCEPTABLE MOTION UNDER OPEN SESSION, OR IF THAT WOULD BE A CLOSED SESSION MOTION. AND YOU'RE MUTED. GREG. YEAH. THE THE MOTION GOES TO REALLY WHAT THE. DISCUSSION WILL GENERATE AROUND SPECIFIC TOPICS. IT'S A COMPLEX MOTION AND THERE ARE NUMEROUS SUB PARTS TO IT.

WHEREAS YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE VOTING ON IT I THINK YOU HAVE TO BREAK IT DOWN AND DO IT SPECIFICALLY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THOSE MATTERS THAT ARE CAN BE SEPARATED FOR PURPOSES OF A VOTE. OKAY, I APPRECIATE IT. OKAY. I'LL BUY IT. I'LL BUY IT FOR THE FIRST PART OF THE MOTION I MOVE, MOVE. SO I WITHDRAW IT OFFICIALLY AND RESTATE IT OR AMEND IT TO BIFURCATE IT. THE FIRST PART OF THE MOTION IS THAT I MOVED TO THE BOARD, APPROVED THE THE CONDUCT AND FUNDING OF AN INVESTIGATION TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE SUPERINTENDENT OR ANY OTHER HARFORD COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION MEMBER, OFFICIAL OR EMPLOYEE ENGAGED IN ACTS OF MALFEASANCE, MISFEASANCE AND OR NONFEASANCE IN OFFICE WHILE SERVING AS A EITHER AS AN EMPLOYEE, BOARD MEMBER, SUPERINTENDENT, OR OTHER OFFICIAL CAPACITY. WITH THE APPOINTMENT OF TWO BOARD MEMBERS, BOTH I NOMINATE BOTH. DIANE. ALVAREZ AGAIN, AGAIN, AGAIN, I THINK I THINK THAT THAT THAT MOTION IS FINE IN TERMS OF SETTING UP THE PROPOSITION THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT SOMEONE TO INVESTIGATE. HOWEVER, THE APPOINTING OF THE INDIVIDUALS COULD GO IN A SECONDARY MOTION, CONSIDERING THAT THE FIRST MOTION IS CONTINGENT ON APPROVAL BY THE BOARD. OKAY. SO LET'S LEAVE. LET'S LEAVE THE MOTION. LET'S LEAVE THE INITIAL MOTION WITHOUT THE THE THE THE DESIGNATION OF OF MEMBERS AS VOTING. SO DO YOU NEED ME TO RESTATE THE MOTION WITHOUT THE APPOINTMENT OF INDIVIDUALS, OR CAN WE LEAVE IT AT THAT? WELL, I THINK YOU SHOULD JUST RESTATE IT ONE MORE TIME AND THEN EVERYONE WILL BE CLEAR ON IT. OKAY. SO SO LET'S BE CLEAR. I'M GOING TO I'M MOVING THAT THE BOARD APPROVE. THE CONDUCT AND FUNDING OF AN INVESTIGATION TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE, WHETHER THE SUPERINTENDENT OR OTHER HARFORD COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION OFFICIALS, EMPLOYEES, BOARD MEMBERS ENGAGED IN ACTS OF MALFEASANCE, MISFEASANCE AND OR NONFEASANCE IN OFFICE WHILE WHILE SERVING IN THEIR OFFICIAL CAPACITIES. I WOULD SAY ONE THING, AND GREG, I'LL GET YOUR OPINION ON THIS, IS I'M SORRY, DON'T I GET IT? I MEAN, WE DON'T GET A SECOND FOR THAT BEFORE THIS IS MELISSA I SECOND. YEAH, BUT BUT I WILL SAY AND GREG, YOU CAN OPINE ON THE TIMING OF THIS, THAT THESE ARE ISSUES THE BOARD IS ABOUT TO VOTE ON SOMETHING WHICH IS GOING TO BE ADDRESSED ON THE ACTIONS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN TAKEN AND THAT ARE PLANNED TO BE TAKING IN CLOSED SESSION. SO NO, NO, THE CLOSED SESSION, I'M SORRY, SINCE YOU DECIDED TO INTERVENE WITH AFTER I MADE A MOTION THAT'S BEEN SECONDED, I WOULD JUST RESPOND THAT THIS IS A BROADER DEMAND FOR AN INVESTIGATION, THE FUNDING, AN INVESTIGATION INTO MALFEASANCE.

IT IS NOT LIMITED TO ONE PERSON OR ANY GROUP OF PEOPLE. AND IT'S A MOTION HAS BEEN SECONDED.

IT'S ON THE FLOOR AND IT NEEDS A VOTE IN PUBLIC. WELL, GREG, UNLESS WE CAN MOVE FORWARD, I THINK. YEAH. AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD IF IT'S BEEN SECONDED, THAT MEANS THAT IT'S OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. SO OTHER BOARD MEMBERS SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE COMMENT AS WELL. YEAH. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WITH GREG THAT IT'S A IT'S A PROPER MOTION AT THIS. IT'S A PROPER MOTION AND IT'S A PROPER MOTION AT THIS TIME. WELL, AGAIN, I THINK IT PROBABLY QUALIFIES AS A PROPER MOTION. THE QUESTION IS WHETHER IT'S SO EXPANSIVE IN LIGHT OF THE REALLY THE PURPOSES FOR THE CLOSED SESSION THAT'S COMING UP. BUT I MEAN, CERTAINLY IT CAN BE PUT OUT THERE FOR A VOTE AND GO FROM THERE. I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION

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ON THE ON THE INVESTIGATION PIECE. I THINK, WHO DOES THE INVESTIGATION? WHO ARE YOU RECOMMENDING? DOES THE INVESTIGATION, MR. KORN? YOU'RE MUTED. IF I CAN SPEAK FOR I'M SORRY. I THINK WHAT HE WAS SAYING WAS THAT WE WOULD SELECT SOMEBODY AND HE WAS SUGGESTING THAT SOMEBODY FROM THE BOARD, WHICH WOULD BE MYSELF AND MELISSA, WOULD DO THAT SELECTION. I AND I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH HAVING A SEPARATE VOTE WITH RESPECT TO WHO WHO IS THE LIAISON. BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE AN INVESTIGATION AND IT NEEDS TO BE FUNDED. AND THIS IS THE INITIAL STEP IN DOING SO. WITH RESPECT TO THE DETAILS THAT NEEDS TO COME AFTER AND EVERYBODY'S POSITION ON THIS BOARD, IT NEEDS TO BE MADE PUBLIC. AND, AND THE REST OF THE WORLD IS GOING TO KNOW ABOUT IT, THAT I CAN ASSURE YOU. SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO ME ON WHO DOES THE INVESTIGATION. IT NEEDS TO BE AN OUTSIDE ENTITY FROM CPS. NO ONE FROM THE BOARD SHOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE INVESTIGATION. AND THEN I WOULD SUPPORT YOUR MOTION. ALL I SAID WAS THAT MEMBERS OF THE BOARD SHOULD HAVE A THERE SHOULD BE A LIAISON BETWEEN THE EXTERNAL AND THE INVESTIGATION AND, AND THE BOARD. WE SHOULD HAVE THERE HAS TO BE SOME LIAISON.

OTHERWISE IT GOES THROUGH IT. WE END UP IN THE SAME SITUATION THAT WE'VE HAD THAT I'VE BEEN FRUSTRATED BY FOR THE LAST SINCE, SINCE JULY. AND AND BOARD MEMBERS ARE NOT ADVISED OF WHAT'S GOING ON AND INTERNAL INTERNAL COMMUNICATIONS. AND THAT'S A PROBLEM. THAT'S WHY THE INVESTIGATION. LISTEN, IF IF, FOR EXAMPLE, THE STATE PROSECUTOR WANTS TO GET INVOLVED AND CONDUCT THEIR OWN INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION SIMULTANEOUSLY, THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE AND PROBABLY WELCOME AND PROBABLY NECESSARY. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, IS THAT I MY MADE A PROPOSAL, I MADE IT, I MADE A MOTION THAT WE HAVE OUR, YOU KNOW, INITIATE OUR OWN INVESTIGATION AND AND THE DETAILS OF WHICH WE CAN WORK OUT, BUT THAT NEEDS TO BE VOTED ON. THE MOTION TO BE MADE HAS BEEN SECONDED. I'M CALLING FOR A VOTE. WELL, THE ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER ALSO ALLOWS FOR DISCUSSION BEFORE A VOTE, AND THAT'S THE PHASE THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW. I WILL SAY THAT I DO HAVE SOME INFORMATION I CAN SHARE ON THIS IN CLOSED SESSION, SO I'M LIKELY TO ABSTAIN BECAUSE OF THAT. I'LL ALSO SAY THAT I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S THE ISSUE ABOUT THE PREVIOUS INVESTIGATION, BECAUSE IT WAS DONE OUTSIDE AND INDEPENDENT, IN COORDINATION WITH THE INSPECTOR GENERAL OF THE STATE, AND THE BOARD IS CURRENTLY SCHEDULED TO GET BRIEFED ON THOSE FINDINGS ON MONDAY. AND THEN LASTLY, YOUR PROPOSAL, I THINK, HAS AN INHERENT FLAW, BECAUSE YOU'RE ASKING MEMBERS OF THE BOARD TO INVESTIGATE KIND OF ITSELF. THESE THINGS ARE TYPICALLY OUTSIDE. NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU'RE MISCHARACTERIZING. WHAT I SAID, DOCTOR POINTON, I SAID THAT THERE HAS TO BE A LIAISON WITH THE INVESTIGATING BODY. I ALSO BUT THIS IS THE PROBLEM. YOU AS OF LAST NIGHT, WE HAD A CLOSED SESSION SCHEDULED FOR TOMORROW ON THE EIGHTH. YOU CANCELED IT. OKAY. ROBERT'S RULES DO NOT DOES NOT GIVE YOU THE UNILATERAL AUTHORITY TO CANCEL A CLOSED SESSION. TO CANCEL A SESSION WITHOUT ANY INPUT FROM ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, WITHOUT DISCUSSION WITH THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS. THIS IS THIS IS THE PROBLEM THAT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS. AND IT'S EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING. AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, IS THAT THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, AN ISSUE HAS ARISEN, AND I AND I, AND I AND I, I'VE ASKED THERE'S AN ISSUE THAT'S RISEN AND THAT HAS BECOME VERY PUBLIC. I ANTICIPATE MORE INFORMATION TO COME OUT THIS COMING WEEK, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE STATE, WHATEVER WHATEVER INVESTIGATION THAT YOU HAVE, YOU'RE REFERRING TO, THERE'S GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION COMING OUT, AND THERE NEEDS TO BE AN INVESTIGATION UNDER THE WITHIN THE BOARD. AND THAT THAT'S WHY I MADE THE MOTION THAT WE HAVE AN INVESTIGATION HERE. AND THERE'S WITH AN EXTERNAL AUTHORITY ALSO INVESTIGATING. I WILL SAY THAT I, I WILL SAY TWO THINGS AND. YEAH, YEAH, I'M SORRY I WILL SAY TWO THINGS. SO SO ROBERT'S RULES, I BELIEVE, DOES GIVE THE BOARD OFFICERS THE POWER TO SET THE AGENDA. AND THURSDAY'S MEETING WAS CANCELED BECAUSE THE SOLE PRESENTER HAD A SCHEDULE CONFLICT. SO JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THOSE. GO AHEAD. DIANE.

YEAH, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY I, YOU KNOW, I SEE MARK'S POINT AND YOU KNOW, THAT THERE DOES

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NEED TO BE SOME KIND OF LIAISON. AND WHETHER IT'S MYSELF OR MELISSA, I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A MAYBE AN ELECTED MEMBER THAT IS NOT PRESENTLY PART OF THE THE BOARD LEADERSHIP WHO, YOU KNOW, IS MAY HAVE MORE OF A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SUPERINTENDENT THAN OTHER BOARD MEMBERS. YEAH. SO WHEN IT COMES TO INVESTIGATIONS, THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED IN THE LAST ONE WITH THE SMITH CASE. IS THAT THE POINT OF CONTACT FOR THE BOARD IS DELETE. THE LIAISON IS GENERALLY THE BOARD'S AUDITOR WHO IS AN INDEPENDENT BOE EMPLOYEE. AND SO THAT WAS THE LIAISON FOR THE LAST ONE. BUT LET'S JUST LET THE VOTE GO FORWARD. UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE. WELL, I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT ON WHO THE LIAISON IS. I'M SUPPORTIVE OF IT. AS LONG AS IT'S NO ONE FROM THIS BOARD. SO THAT CLARIFICATION IS IMPORTANT FOR MY VOTE. OKAY. SO THAT WAS NOT PART OF A BIFURCATED MOTION, BUT I SAID THAT THERE HAS TO BE A LIAISON. I DIDN'T I DIDN'T MEAN IT'S NOT PART OF THE MOTION. DO YOU WANT ME TO DO YOU WANT TO REPEAT THE MOTION? I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE ON. YES. YEAH. MARK, THAT WOULD BE GOOD IF YOU WOULD RESTATE IT AND JUST. OKAY, WELL, IT. WELL, IS THERE SOMEONE WHO TOOK DOWN THE MOTION AS I MADE IT, OR DO YOU WANT ME TO REPEAT IT? WHY DON'T YOU REPEAT IT? I WAS. LET'S BE CLEAR. I'M GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION IS TO MOVE THAT THE BOARD APPROVE, CONDUCT AND FUND AN INVESTIGATION TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS AND ANY OTHER BOE OFFICIALS, EMPLOYEES, BOARD MEMBERS, OR ANYONE ASSOCIATED WITH THE BOARD OF EDUCATION ACT AND ACT IN ENGAGE IN ACTS OF MALFEASANCE, MISFEASANCE AND OR NONFEASANCE IN OFFICE WHILE SERVING AS EITHER THE SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS OR IN THEIR OFFICIAL CAPACITIES, WORKING FOR THE SCHOOLS OR THE BOARD OF EDUCATION. AND AND THE APPOINTMENT OF LIAISON WITH SUCH INVESTIGATION. INVESTIGATING INVESTIGATION. INVESTIGATION. INVESTIGATING AUTHORITY. THAT'S THE MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? THIS IS DIANA. SECOND. SORRY I COULDN'T GET OFF MUTE, BUT YES. ALL RIGHT. GO AHEAD WITH A ROLL CALL THEN. MRS. YOU HAVE ONE QUESTION. I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION, THOUGH. BEFORE WE GO TO THE ROLL CALL, WHO IS THE AUDITOR? I HATE TO SOUND AS IF I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, BUT LAURA, I KNOW LAURA, BUT LAURA, LAURA IS THE AUDITOR THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THAT'S WHO WE WERE REFERRING TO. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. AND I, THIS IS CAROL BRUCE. CAN I ASK THAT? OH, SORRY. I DIDN'T SEE YOUR HAND UP. TAKING NOTES. READ THAT MOTION BACK TO MAKE SURE, BECAUSE I'M. I'M NOT SURE. MR. CONNOR SAID 2 OR 3 TIMES, AND I UNDERSTAND, BUT CAN THE NOTES REFLECT THE ACCURATE MOTION? I THINK IT WOULD, SINCE IT'S BEING RECORDED, THERE'S NO UPPER LIMIT, THOUGH, ON THE EXPENSE OF THIS. I THINK. I THINK HE WAS SUGGESTING THAT WAS A DETAIL THAT COULD BE WORKED OUT LATER. SO I THINK THE MOTION STANDS AS IS.

RESTATE THE MOTION. I DIDN'T QUITE GET THE WHOLE THING. MARK THAT YOU AGAIN. OKAY. I'M SORRY.

WHO ASKED? DENISE. DENISE. OH, OKAY. HI. ALL RIGHT. EVERYONE READY? HEY, MARK. I JUST WAS WONDERING, CAN WE. IF YOU HAVE THIS AVAILABLE ELECTRONICALLY, MAYBE YOU COULD JUST SEND IT OUT BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE READING IT OFF A PAD. NO, I KNOW I'M USING SOME NOTES, BUT THEY'RE MY NOTES, AND THEY'RE. AND I'VE CHANGED SOME OF THE WORDS, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'LL BE HAPPY TO SAY IT SLOWLY IF YOU'D LIKE. ARE WE. IS EVERYONE READY? YEAH. GO AHEAD. YOU SURE? OKAY.

I'M MOVING THAT THE BOARD APPROVE THE CONDUCT AND FUNDING OF AN INVESTIGATION TO

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DETERMINE. TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS, ANY OTHER CRAWFORD COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION, OFFICIAL EMPLOYEE, BOARD MEMBER, ASSOCIATE CONTRACTOR ENGAGED IN ACTS OF MALFEASANCE, MISFEASANCE, AND OR NONFEASANCE IN OFFICE OR DURING THIS IN OFFICE WHILE SERVING AS EITHER THE SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS OR IN THEIR OFFICIAL CAPACITIES, OR OR WITH THE USE OF OF HARTFORD COUNTY BOARD OF EDUCATION FUNDS. THAT'S THE MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? AM I MELISSA QUESTION I SECOND THE MOTION. WE'RE LEAVING OUT THE NAMES OF THE TWO PEOPLE FROM THE BOARD. YES, YES. I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T KNOW WHO THAT WAS. IS THAT IS THAT MISS BRUCE? YES. HI. MISS BRUCE. YEAH. I'M LEAVING OUT THE POINTS OF CONTACT THAT WE CAN WORK OUT AS A EITHER A A SECONDARY MOTION OR LATER. SO, YES, THERE'S NO ONE NAMED IN THE MOTION. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. WAS THERE A SECOND? YES. MELISSA. MELISSA. SECOND. OKAY.

ROLL CALL. VOTE. MRS. PERRY. NO. MR. SEWELL, I ABSTAIN. DOCTOR MUELLER. YES. MR. MCVICAR, I'M SO SORRY. I'M GOING TO SKIP OVER MR. MCVICKER. MR. KORN. YES. MISS HAHN? YES, MISS.

BRUCE? NO. MISS ALVAREZ. YES. VICE PRESIDENT. PAIGE. YES, PRESIDENT. POINTON, ABSTAIN.

MAY I ASK WHY MY VOTE WAS SKIPPED? SINCE WE'RE STILL IN OPEN SESSION? I THINK YOU CAN HAVE A. PREFERENTIAL VOTE. WHAT WAS YOUR LOGIC FOR SKIPPING HIM, YVONNE, I, I LOST TRACK, AND I THOUGHT WE WERE IN CLOSED SESSION, SO MY APOLOGIES. OKAY. THAT'S OKAY. I JUST WOULD LIKE THE RECORD TO REFLECT THAT I ABSTAIN. OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. SO I HAVE AND I'M. I'M SORRY. DOES IS HIS VOTE PREFERENTIAL ON THAT. IT'S A MOOT POINT RIGHT NOW ISN'T IT DOCTOR BOYNTON. SO IT'S NOT A NOT A NO I THINK I THINK I THINK HE'S ACTUALLY THE TIEBREAKER. SO GIVE ME ONE SECOND. ISN'T THIS A STAFF ISSUE WHICH WE STATED IN THE BEGINNING THAT HE DOES NOT HAVE A VOTE IN STAFF MATTERS. IT'S REGARDING AN INVESTIGATION, NOT THE ACTUAL DISCIPLINE OF STAFF. SO IN MY INTERPRETATION IT WOULD BE IT WOULD BE A COUNTED VOTE. BUT OF COURSE I WILL, YOU KNOW, DELEGATE TO TO LEGAL ADVICE. IF THIS WERE A BONA FIDE PERSONNEL ISSUE, IT WOULD HAPPEN UNDER CLOSED SESSION. BUT GIVE ME ONE SECOND BECAUSE I ACTUALLY HAVE THIS SOMEWHERE. YOU GUYS REMEMBER I DID THAT SPREADSHEET I THINK, LAST YEAR.

OH, OKAY. HERE IT IS I FOUND IT. GIVE ME ONE SECOND. OKAY. THE POLICY OR NON POLICY. IT'S NON POLICY. INHIBIT IT FROM VOTING ON. IF YOU LOOK AT THE LIST HERE. THERE'S 15 ITEMS. GEOGRAPHY ACQUISITION OF PROPERTY, EMPLOYMENT OF ARCHITECTS DONATIONS. LET'S SEE.

TRANSPORTATION OF STUDENTS. SALARY OF COUNTY SUPERINTENDENT EMPLOYEE DISCIPLINE APPEALS.

BUDGET MATTERS OKAY I'M SORRY. THIS IS THIS IS 100% DEALING WITH EMPLOYEE DISCIPLINE. IT'S AN INVESTIGATION INTO EMPLOYEES. AND THERE'S ABSOLUTELY. AND YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS I APPRECIATE THE INPUT, IT IS NOT A MATTER FOR A STUDENT MEMBER. THIS IS DEALING WITH POTENTIAL

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MALFEASANCE BY THE SUPERINTENDENT OF SCHOOLS. BYE. BY BY BY BY BY EMPLOYEES OF THE BOARD OF EDUCATION AND BY POTENTIALLY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS. THIS IS 100% EXCLUDED FROM THE REALM OF OF OF POTENTIAL ISSUES UPON WHICH YOU CAN CAST A VOTE. ALL RIGHT.

EXCUSE ME. MARK, I APPRECIATE I APPRECIATE YOUR INPUT, BUT I WOULD RATHER HEAR AN ANSWER FROM OUR BOARD ATTORNEY, GREG, PLEASE, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ACTUALLY DISCIPLINING AN EMPLOYEE AND AND CONDUCTING AN INVESTIGATION. BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, JUST LET ME JUST GET THROUGH THE REST OF THE LIST. SO ITEMS TEN AND 15 ARE THINGS LIKE CALENDAR AND COLLECTIVE BARGAINING. SO THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD APPLY HERE IS EMPLOYEE DISCIPLINE AND APPEALS. SO GREG, THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT A MOTION FOR A BROAD INVESTIGATION OF ALL EMPLOYEES COUNTYWIDE ESSENTIALLY WOULD BE CATEGORIZED AS EITHER AN EMPLOYEE DISCIPLINE ISSUE OR AN APPEAL ISSUE. ACCORDING TO 4-205C. I THINK THAT IS THE WAY I HEAR THE MOTION, IS THAT IT'S AN ATTEMPT TO SET UP A STRUCTURE BY WHICH INVESTIGATIONS WILL BE CONDUCTED. BUT, YOU KNOW, AT PRESENT THERE ARE NO OUTSTANDING CASES OR CHARGES THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT AGAINST THE, YOU KNOW, ANY EMPLOYEE OF HARFORD COUNTY PUBLIC SCHOOLS. SO IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT IN LIGHT OF THAT, THIS IS STRUCTURAL COMMITTEE, THAT THE STUDENT MEMBER WOULD HAVE A VOTE. THEN IN THAT CASE, WOULDN'T THAT WOULDN'T THERE JUST BE A NECESSITY TO HAVE A MAJORITY VOTE? YEAH. MAJORITY. YEAH. SO YOU WOULD NEED SIX OF TEN AND THERE'S CURRENTLY FIVE.

SO I MEAN HE'S THE TIEBREAKING VOTE. SO BASED ON I KNOW MARK'S PROBABLY GOING TO YOU KNOW DISPUTE WHAT GREG SAID. BUT YOU KNOW ACCORDING TO GREG THIS IS NOT A DISCIPLINE ISSUE. HE IS NOT PRECLUDED FROM VOTING ON THIS. THEREFORE HIS VOTE IS GOING TO COUNT. NOW, MARK, IF YOU WANT TO GET WE CAN ALWAYS TAKE THE VOTE AGAIN IF IT'S LATER DETERMINED THAT THAT THAT WAS A THAT GREG GAVE US AN INCORRECT INTERPRETATION OF THE STATUTE THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, A BONA FIDE EMPLOYEE DISCIPLINE ISSUE. I WOULD PROBABLY ATTEND WITH GREG. I TEND TO AGREE WITH GREG THAT THE WAY IT WAS FRAMED WAS SO BROAD. IT IS NOT A SPECIFIC ISSUE. I WOULD EVEN SAY REGARDING THE SUPERINTENDENT AND THE ALLEGATIONS. THERE'S CURRENTLY NO CHARGES OR CRIMES OR ANYTHING EVEN AGAINST THE SUPERINTENDENT. SO I'M INCLINED HERE TO SAY THAT TREY'S VOTE DOES COUNT. THE WAY THAT I'M READING IT RIGHT HERE. BUT MARK, IF YOU WANT TO GET YOUR OWN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO GET, WE CAN ALWAYS SUBMIT. I THINK LIKE A AN OPINION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE MOTION LIKE THAT WOULD BE A DISCIPLINARY ISSUE OR NOT. AND IF WE'RE IF WE'RE WRONG ON THAT, WE CAN BRING IT BACK TO THE BOARD. SO SO JUST TO CLARIFY, ASCENSION, SORRY, JUST TO CLARIFY AN ABSTENTION VOTE, HOW IS THAT COUNTED IN THIS VOTE? BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO NOTES, THERE ARE THREE ABSTENTIONS AND THERE ARE FIVE YESES. YEAH. SO WITH THE WHEN THE FULL BODY VOTES LIKE THIS YOU WOULD IN MEANING THE THE STUDENT CAN VOTE. SO YOU NEED SIX FOR ANY MOTION TO PASS. IF THE STUDENT DOESN'T EXTENSION THE ABSTENTION HOW IS AN ABSTENTION VOTE COUNTED. AS AN ABSTENTION. YEAH. IT'S IT'S COUNTED NOT AS A YES. SO THAT THE THE THRESHOLD IS NOT HOW MANY NO'S OR ABSTENTIONS THE THRESHOLD IS. DO YOU GET TO SIX VOTES OR NOT. BUT WE ONLY NEED A SIMPLE MAJORITY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PASSING A MOTION. SO THEN WITH THE FIVE IT WOULD PASS. NO FIVE IS NOT A MAJORITY OF TEN.

SIX IS FIVE IS A MAJORITY OF NINE. OKAY. LET ME LET ME THE SIMPLE MAJORITY. SO IT'S A SIMPLE MAJORITY WHICH MEANS IF YOU HAVE MORE YESES THAN ANY OTHER VOTE IT'S A SIMPLE MAJORITY. NO. SO YOU NEED SO ON NON POLICY ISSUES WHERE THE STUDENT VOTES YOU NEED SIX OF TEN ON A NON POLICY ISSUE. IF THE STUDENT DOESN'T VOTE YOU NEED FIVE BECAUSE IT'S FIVE OF

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NINE WHICH WE HAVE FIVE. WE HAVE WE HAVE WE HAVE TEN VOTERS. GUYS THIS IS THIS IS OUR BUCKET RIGHT HERE. THE MOTION WAS NON POLICY RELATED. STUDENT IS ENTITLED TO VOTE. YOU NEED SIX OF TEN FOR IT TO PASS. SO THEREFORE YEAH SO SO THE MOTION FAILS OKAY. MY MOTION THAT WE GO TO CLOSED SESSION OKAY. JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS ACTUALLY WAS PUBLISHED A COUPLE YEARS AGO I WILL RESEND THIS OUT TO EVERYBODY. BUT THIS IS MOTION THAT WE GO TO CLOSED SESSION. ALL RIGHT. WELL LET ME PULL UP MY SCRIPT. I SECOND OKAY. GO AHEAD. GO AHEAD. AND YVONNE. MRS. PERRY. YES, MR. SEWELL. YES. DOCTOR MUELLER. YES. MR. MCVICKER. YES. MR. CORN. YES. MRS. HAHN YES, MISS. BRUCE. YES. MRS. ALVAREZ. YES. VICE PRESIDENT. PAIGE. YES.

PRESIDENT. BOYNTON. YES. THIS MOTION PASSES.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.