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[BUDGET PUBLIC INPUT SESSION: 6:00 PM - 7:00 PM]

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I ASK THAT EVERYONE PLEASE MUTE YOUR DEVICE TO AVOID INTERRUPTIONS UNTIL CALLED UPON.

I CALLED IT ORDER THIS BUDGET PUBLIC INPUT SESSION OF THE BOARD OF EDUCATION OF HARFORD COUNTY ON JANUARY 17TH 2023. YET SIX O'CLOCK. THIS PUBLICANS INPUT SESSION WILL BE CONDUCTED IN A VIRTUAL FASHION. MISR EL OH, PLEASE TAKE ROLL CALL ALVARADO. PRESENT, MISS BRUCE.

HERE. MISS HAN. PRESENT. DR HAROLD. I BELIEVE DR. HAROLD IS ABSENT THIS EVENING, MISS PERRY.

HERE. DR PHILLIPS. THERE. MISS RECORDING HERE. LET'S BLANKEN THIS BLANKET IS ABSENT THIS EVENING. VICE PRESIDENT SEWELL HERE. DOESN'T HEAL HER HERE. SUPERINTENDENT WILSON HERE THE ROLL CALL. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT. BEFORE WE BEGIN. I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND ALL SPEAKERS THAT TONIGHT'S PUBLIC COMMENTS ARE FOR INPUT AND FEEDBACK ON THE PROPOSED FISCAL YEAR 2024 BUDGET COMMENTS THAT ARE FOCUSED ON OTHER TOPICS WILL NOT BE PERMITTED. THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR COMPLIANCE TO THIS EXPECTATION. MISS JUDD, COULD YOU PLEASE GIVE US THE OVERVIEW OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET? TOLD AFTER BOSTON BOARD MEMBERS WE'LL DO A VERY BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE PRESENTATION AGAIN. MORE DETAILED PRESENTATION WAS PROVIDED ON JANUARY 9TH THAT CAN BE FOUND ON THE WEBSITE UNDER THE BOARD OF EDUCATION. WE'LL DO THIS REVIEW THIS EVENING AND REMIND THE PUBLIC THAT IF YOU'RE NOT HERE, MAKING COMMENTS THIS EVENING, YOU'RE UNABLE TO BE YOU CAN EMAIL US AT BUDGET AT HTTPS .ORG AND WE'LL TAKE THOSE COMMENTS, UM, IN THAT MANNER AS WELL. SO IF YOU BUDGET HIGHLIGHTS, UH, REVIEW THE.

FIRST TWO ON THE NEXT SLIDE ARE RESTRICTED BUDGET INCLUDES FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDS FOR SPECIFIC PURPOSES AND DATES ARE FOOD AND NUTRITION BUDGET IS PREPARED UNDER THE NATIONAL SCHOOL LUNCH PROGRAM MODEL. THAT'S THE SECOND TIME FY 23 3 IS PREPARED UNDER THAT AS WELL AS 24 FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, IT'S BEEN UNDER THE SUMMER MEALS PROGRAM DUE TO THE PANDEMIC. AND OUR BUDGET IS DUE TO HARTFORD COUNTY ON MARCH 1ST. ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN.

THIS CHART SHOWS THAT ABOUT 85% OF OUR BUDGET IS SPENT ON SALARIES AND BENEFITS. AND ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN. IT'S A DIFFERENT VIEW OF THE BUDGET SHOWING ABOUT 75% OF OUR BUDGET ON INSTRUCTION AND INSTRUCTIONAL SUPPORT. THIS IS A SUMMARY OF ALL OF OUR FUNDS. UM THE REVENUE FUNDS. SO WE HAVE THE UNRESTRICTED FUND IN THE RESTRICTED FUND, WHICH MAKE UP OUR CURRENT EXPENSE FUND. THE UNRESTRICTED FUND IS SHOWING A PROPOSED CHANGE FOR FY 23 24. OF $54.4 MILLION OF A 9.4% INCREASE OVER FY 23. THE RESTRICTED FUND IS SHOWING A DECREASE OF 22.7% $11.3 MILLION. NO CHANGE FOR THE FOOD SERVICE, DEBT SERVICE OR PENSION IS, UM ESTIMATED AT THIS TIME. WE WILL MODIFY THOSE AS WE GET INTO THE SPRING AND SUMMER AND FINALIZE THE BUDGET AT THAT TIME, AND RIGHT NOW THE PROPOSED CAPITAL CHANGES $8.8 MILLION OR 10.3. WE ARE PROPOSING A $26.8 MILLION INCREASE IN OUR LOCAL REVENUE. THAT'S AN 8.3% INCREASE OVER LAST YEAR AND ARE ESTIMATED MARYLAND REVENUE INCREASES 28.1 MILLION OR 11.4. WE'RE SHOWING A SMALL DECREASE PROPOSED IN OUR OTHER REVENUE. AGAIN TOTALING THE 9.4% INCREASE OVERALL IN THE OPERATING BUDGET. THIS IS A SUMMARY OF ALL OF THE AREAS WHERE WE REQUESTING INCREASES IN THE BUDGET. THE LARGEST OF THAT BEING OUR EMPLOYEE SALARY AND WAGE PACKAGE OF $19.2 MILLION, AND THEN IT THE DETAILS OF EACH OF THE AREAS ARE LISTED HERE TO TOTAL, THE 54.4 MILLION AND AGAIN THE DETAILS AND FURTHER BREAKDOWN OF THOSE COSTS AND POSITION TOTALS ARE AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE AT HTTPS .ORG. WE'RE SHOWING AN INCREASE IN THE UNRESTRICTED FUND OF 184.7 POSITIONS. OF THOSE 118.3 ARE

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BEING PROPOSED TO MOVE FROM OUR RESTRICTED BUDGET TO THE UNRESTRICTED BUDGET, AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH OUR COVID RELIEF FUNDS. UM EXPIRING, SO WE'RE PROPOSING TO MOVE THOSE POSITIONS INTO THE OPERATING BUDGET FOR FY 24. SO THE NET CHANGE TO THESE TWO BUDGETS FOR NEW POSITIONS OF 66.4 POSITIONS. SO ON JANUARY 9TH. WE PRESENTED THIS BUDGET THE SUPERINTENDENT'S PROPOSED BUDGET TO THE BOARD FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND WE'LL BE BACK ON FEBRUARY, 13TH TO REQUEST YOUR APPROVAL FOR THE UNRESTRICTED FUND RESTRICTED FUND AND FOOD AND NUTRITION FUND . THE CAPITAL BUDGET WAS APPROVED. FINALLY ON DECEMBER 19TH. THERE WERE MANY MEETINGS UP UNTIL THAT POINT, AND I BELIEVE THERE WAS SOME CHANGES ON DECEMBER 19TH SO WE WON'T BE ASKING THE BOARD TO VOTE AGAIN ON THAT BUDGET AGAIN. ONCE WE KNOW THE FINAL CAPITAL NUMBERS, WE WILL BE BACK IN JUNE TO ASK FOR FINAL VOTE ON THAT BUDGET AS WELL. SO WITH THAT WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR PUBLIC INPUT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MRS RALLO, CAN YOU PLEASE BEGIN THE IN PERSON REGISTERED PUBLIC SPEAKERS. CURRENTLY WE HAVE ONE IN PERSON. SPEAKER IF THERE'S SOMEBODY ELSE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK, THE REGISTRATION CARDS ARE IT'S YOURSELF. OKAY? SO WE'RE GONNA START WITH CINDY POOPER. GOOD EVENING. I JUST HAVE A FEW COMMENTS REGARDING THE BUDGET. FIRST AND FOREMOST TO RETAIN OUR PEOPLE AND NOT START NEXT YEAR WITH HUNDREDS OF CLASSROOMS WITHOUT CERTIFICATED STAFF. AND EVEN MORE ESPN POSITIONS UNFILLED. THE BOARD WILL NEED TO TAKE CARE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE NOW. THIS MEANS THAT ANY PROPOSED SALARY PACKAGE NEEDS TO ENSURE THAT EVERY EMPLOYEE MAKES MORE NEXT YEAR THAN THEY DID THIS YEAR.

NOT JUST AN INCREASE IN DOLLARS THAT MEETING THE NEED TO GROW EMPLOYEES BUYING POWER AND NOT TO SEE ANY INCREASE IN THEIR PAYCHECK VANISH WITH INFLATION. SECOND HERE. I WILL BORROW A PHRASE I HEARD FROM DR WILLIAMS , THE SUPERINTENDENT OF BALTIMORE COUNTY THIS MORNING.

STUDENT IMPROVEMENT COMES FROM SCHOOL IMPROVEMENT. IN SCHOOL IMPROVEMENT COMES FROM PEOPLE IMPROVEMENT AND PEOPLE IMPROVEMENT COMES FROM THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN AND GROW AS A PROFESSIONAL. I'M SPEAKING PRIMARILY TO THE OPPORTUNITY FOR QUALITY, APPROPRIATE AND NECESSARY PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT FOR E S. P S. WE ARE VERY APPRECIATIVE THAT HCPS ENTERED INTO AN MOU FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ES, PPD WORKGROUP. AND AS A MEMBER OF THAT GROUP, I BELIEVE WE HAVE COME FAR. AH, HERE COMES THE BUT HOWEVER, HCPS DOES NOT ASK ME AND HE S P TO DESIGN AND PRESENT PD FOR STATISTIC DEFECATED STAFF. WHY CERTIFICATED STAFF DOING THE SAME FOR USPS? IT IS TIME THAT AN SP AND NOT JUST CLERICAL SUPPORT BE ADDED TO THE CURRICULUM AND PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT STAFF WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY TO COORDINATE AND DEVELOP PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT FOR SPS. THIS IS NOT AT ALL DISPARAGING THE WONDERFUL PEOPLE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH AT ALL. IT IS THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT SPS KNOW WHAT ISPS WANT AND NEED. AND UNLESS YOU'RE AN S P, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW. I'M ASKING FOR THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FROM HCPS THAT WE ARE THE PROFESSIONALS IN OUR AREA. JUST TWO CERTIFICATED STAFF ARE THE PROFESSIONALS IN THEIR AREAS. AS YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BUDGET. PLEASE CONSIDER THIS REQUEST. IT MEANS A LOT TO ESPN AND WOULD GO FAR AND DEMONSTRATING THAT HCPS AND THE BOARD RECOGNIZED THAT ISPS ARE ESSENTIAL TO THE SUCCESS OF OUR SCHOOLS. JUST AS ARE CERTIFICATED STAFF ARE THANK YOU. THE NEXT SPEAKER IS MR BENJAMIN HEUSER. GOOD EVENING.

IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE, UM, TO DISCUSS THE BUDGET. UH FIRST OFF MY BONG REPRESENTATIVES NOT PROVIDED A LINE BY LINE, SO THAT KINDA MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR ME TO ACTUALLY KIND OF GO THROUGH CERTAIN THINGS, BUT, UM I JUST FIRST WANT TO RECOGNIZE EVERYBODY THAT WE'RE IN A RECESSION. WE DON'T EXACTLY KNOW IF WE'RE HEADING TOWARDS THE DEPRESSION OR NOT. SO AS FAMILY HOUSEHOLDS ACROSS HARFORD COUNTY ARE BUCKLING DOWN AND TRYING TO CHANGE EXACTLY HOW THEY'RE SPENDING THEIR MONEY. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD ALSO LOOK THE SAME WAY. WE SHOULDN'T BE LOOKING TO ADD ANYTHING TO OUR HOME TO DO NEW HOME IMPROVEMENTS WE SHOULD BE DOING. AS MUCH AS WE CAN, WITH THE FRAMEWORK THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, SO WE REALLY SHOULDN'T BE TRYING SOME SOME NEW ITEMS. HOWEVER WE CANNOT IGNORE CURRENT NEEDS. CP I HAVE LAST YEAR WENT UP 9.9 POINT 1.

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NORMALLY I'M NOT A HUGE FAN OF HUGE PAY INCREASES, BUT I AM A BIG FAN OF DOING A PAY INCREASE TO ALL EDUCATORS AND EVERYONE OPERATING WITHIN A SCHOOL OF 9.1% INCREASE. I KNOW THIS IS A RIDICULOUS NUMBER, HOWEVER. IF WE WANT TO MAINTAIN OUR STAFF HERE, WE HAVE TO PAY THEM CORRECTLY. I KNOW IT'S A LARGE PAY INCREASE. BUT TO GET THE BEST YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR THE BEST, AND THAT'S JUST THE BOTTOM LINE THERE. UM THERE'S CERTAIN PROGRAMS THAT SHOULD BE REDLINED . THE PACE COORDINATOR DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THEY DO. IT'S 100 AND $45,000 A YEAR. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY DO. THE FLORIDA VIRTUAL LEARNING, I BELIEVE THAT'S KIND OF LIKE A VIRTUAL SUMMER SCHOOL WITH MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECT. IT'S LIKE $100,000. UM, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD ALWAYS HAVE IN PERSON SUMMER SCHOOL BECAUSE PEER PRESSURE ALONE. KEEPS KIDS FROM GOING TO SUMMER SCHOOL. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL REMEMBER BACK WHEN YOU TOOK YOUR DRIVING TEST, RIGHT? IF YOU FAILED YOUR DRIVING TEST, EVERYONE IN THE WHOLE SCHOOL, IT WAS LIKE PEER PRESSURE FROM HOW IF YOU GO TO SUMMER SCHOOL, SAME THING WE SHOULDN'T BE OFFERING A VIRTUAL OPTION. TO GIVE AN EASIER PASS. I UNDERSTAND. THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE ALSO HAS NOT RECEIVED THE LINE BY LINE. THAT KIND OF MAKES IT DIFFICULT THERE, TOO. AND THEN THE GOVERNMENT. WHEN WE HAD HARD TIMES WE DID A HIRING FREEZE. I WOULD NOT DO A HIRING FREEZE FOR TEACHERS, BUT I WOULD DO A HIRING FREEZE FOR EVERYONE THAT'S IN THE HEAD ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING. FOR EVERY TWO PEOPLE LOST. YOU REPLACE HIM WITH ONE AND THE GOVERNMENT. WE DID IT FOR EVERY THREE PEOPLE LOST. WE REPLACE IT WITH ONE SO WE JUST WE BASICALLY JUST NEED TO BUCKLE DOWN. WE GIVE THE PEOPLE THAT DESERVE A RAISE THE APPROPRIATE RAISE, AND WE JUST WE CAN'T AFFORD TO GO ON NEW VENTURES RIGHT NOW, WITH AN UNCERTAIN FUTURE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PRESIDENT MILLER. THAT'S ALL THE M PERSON I HAVE SO FAR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. MS GILLIAN LATER CAN YOU BEGIN THE VIRTUAL PUBLIC SPEAKERS? GOOD EVENING, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO AND I WILL BEGIN ADMITTING NOW. AND GOOD EVENING. YOU ARE NOW IN THE BUDGET INPUT SESSION, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND GO AHEAD AND PROCEED WITH YOUR COMMENT. HI I AM MACKENZIE WARDROBE. MY DAUGHTER ADELAIDE IS A STUDENT AT THE HARTFORD ACADEMY, FORMALLY KNOWN AS OUR CHURCH. UM, I AM PRETTY MUCH COMMENTS IN ABOUT MY CONCERNS WITH UM JOHN ARCHIBALD JOHN ARCHER. NOT BEING A PART OF YOUR BUDGET AND OF CONSTANTLY BEING PUSHED BACK AND PUSHED BACK AND PUSHED BACK. IT HAS BEEN 15 YEARS OF EMPTY PROMISES. I HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR THIS FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS AND I KEEP GETTING TOLD OVERCOMING WERE COMING AND NOBODY COMES AND NOBODY CONSIDERS WHAT OUR KIDS GO THROUGH AND WHAT OUR KIDS NEED. WHY WE HAD A NAME CHANGE IS ANOTHER BAND AID. IT WAS A WASTE OF RESOURCES. A WASTE OF BUDGET . YOU SHOULD HAVE WAITED TO HAVE A NEW BUILDING THAT IT ALL CHANGES IN. ALL HAPPENS TOGETHER , BUT AGAIN, YOU WASTED MONEY THERE AND WE NOW DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN PEOPLE PLAYERS OUT TO THE BUILDING EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.

I'D RATHER YOU SPEND A DAY WITH OUR CHILDREN AND UNDERSTAND THE STRUGGLES THAT THEY GO WITH BEING IN AN OLD AND OUT TODAY BUILDING FOR THE NEEDS OF OUR CHILDREN. UM WE ARE JUST CONSTANTLY AT THE END. BECAUSE OUR POPULATION IS SO SMALL. WE ARE NOW BEING PUT ON HOLD BECAUSE HOMESTEAD WAKEFIELD YOU GUYS CAN'T MAKE UP AROUND ON A ROAD AND THAT PUSHES US OFF YET AGAIN, AND IT'S JUST NOT FAIR. UM, YOU GUYS SCREWED THE POOCH ON COVID AND OUR KIDS FELL BEHIND BECAUSE MONEY WAS SPENT ELSEWHERE AND NOT ON OUR KIDS. SO MY CONCERN IS WHEN AT WHAT POINT ARE OUR KIDS GONNA MATTER ? WHEN IS IT OUR TURN? UM AND ALSO NOT FOR ANYTHING BUT OUR STAFF AND OUR PRINCIPAL RANDY GAYER ARE PROBABLY THE MOST ANGELIC PEOPLE ON THE FACE OF THE PLANET AND IF ANYBODY DESERVES A RAISE. IT IS EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT WALKS IN THAT BUILDING AND WORKS AT HARTFORD ACADEMY, SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHY WE AREN'T EVEN ON THE BUDGET WHEN WE EVEN TOLD FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS THAT WERE NEXT. WE'RE NEXT AND WE'RE NOT NEXT.

SO WHAT GIVES. AND THAT WAS THE ONLY VIRTUAL REGISTERED PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WE HAD THIS EVENING, DR MUELLER THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. TO EXPLAIN WE DON'T WE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE THIS MEETING GOES ON UNTIL SEVENTH OF ANYONE ELSE WALKS IN BETWEEN NOW

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AND SEVEN. THEY WILL BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK. SO NOW WE WAIT. AND THEN EVERYONE PUT A CARD IN IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK, SPEAK. I MEAN, I TOLD YOU LAST WEEK I WAS REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO YOU COMING IN AND TALKING, SO WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS LONG TIME. PROVIDED QUESTION.

SOMEBODY'S TRYING. TO SOMEBODY'S TRYING TO SPEAK THAT ROY TRYING TO SAY SOMETHING. YEAH. CLASSIC QUESTION. YEAH. WHAT WAS THE LAST UM PERSON, REFERRING TO WHEN SHE WAS SAYING THAT THE ACADEMY IS BEING BUT THE BACK OF THE BACK OF THE ACTIVE ROOM AGAIN. UM WE DEFERRING OUR PLANS TO AH! BUILD A NEW SCHOOL. IS THAT WHAT SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT? ROYAL UM NOT THAT I'M WE HAVEN'T CHANGED ANYTHING. ON THE PLAN. UH THAT SCHOOL HAS BEEN ON THE SAME PLACE ON THE SCHEDULE FOR QUITE SOME TIME. SO WE'RE STILL ON TRACK WITH THE PLANNING WITH THE DELIVERY DATE THAT WE HAD ORIGINALLY TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE SUBMITTED THE CAPITAL PLANET NUMBER THE LAST FEW YEARS. IT'S THAT'S BEEN, UH 20. YEAH. I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT ANYTHING CAN CHANGE OR JUST WONDERING. WHAT SHE WAS REFERRING TO WHEN SHE WAS SAYING THAT, UH, PLANS FOR HARFORD ACADEMY KEEPS GETTING PUSHED BACK AND PUSHED BACK AND THAT THERE'S NOTHING IN THE BUDGET.

TO ADDRESS HARTFORD ACADEMY. UM FRANKLY, RYAN, I'M NOT SURE. UM JUST ONE DOESN'T CHANGE. I WONDER IF I MISSED SOMETHING ALONG THE WAY. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. WE DON'T USUALLY DO THIS AS SORT OF AN OPEN DISCUSSION FORUM. UM I'D BE HAPPY TO STAY AND TALK AFTER THAT HELPS, UM, I WAS TALKING TO SOMEONE ELSE. STILL HAVE TO WORK. WE STILL HAVE 40 MINUTES THAT WE NEED TO BE HERE. YOU KNOW, I KNOW. I KNOW THAT WASN'T TALKING TO YOU. MR HEUSER ASKED THE QUESTION BEFORE YOU ASKED YEARS. UM SO I WAS RESPONDING TO HIM. WHAT KIND OF THIS HAS BEEN? UM YOU KNOW, THIS IS SORT OF AN UNUSUAL MEETING BECAUSE THE IDEA IS WE COLLECT AND WE DON'T REALLY COME PREPARED TO DISCUSS DETAILS. BUT HOW ABOUT THIS? THE ONE DETAIL? UM MR HEUSER, UH, MENTIONED COMPUTER PLACES THAT HIS BOARD MEMBER AND ALSO THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE HAS NOT RECEIVED A LINE BY LINE ITEM OF THE BUDGET. UM. PRETTY SURE THAT'S OUT THERE, RIGHT. YEAH, I GUESS THAT'S A FUNCTION OF WHAT PEOPLE CALL LINE BY LINE. I THINK WE WOULD BE PRODUCING, UM SO THERE'S THE BUDGET DOCUMENT. YEAH. DEBORAH, IF YOU WANT TO. NORMALLY RECEIVE A REQUEST FROM THE COUNTIES INTERNAL AUDITOR TO PROVIDE THAT LINE ITEM DETAIL AND SHE DOESN'T ANALYSIS ON THAT. WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED THAT YET, BECAUSE TYPICALLY SHE'LL WAIT UNTIL THE BOARD APPROVED AND IT'S THE BOARD'S BUDGET GOING OVER TO THE COUNTY. SO AT THAT POINT, SHE TYPICALLY WOULD REQUEST THAT DETAIL AND THEY DO AN ANALYSIS FOR THE COUNTY AT THAT TIME. IT IS OUR INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THE WEBSITE. THE LINE BY LYING BUDGET IS AVAILABLE FOR THE CURRENT YEAR.

WE'VE NOT POSTED FOR THE NEXT YEAR, VERY HIGH LEVEL, SUMMARIZED, UM BUDGET THAT WE'RE PRESENTING AT THIS POINT, SO WE DON'T GET DOWN TO THAT LINE ITEM DETAIL. UNTIL WE DO A FINAL BUDGET. SO WE KNOW WHERE EACH OF THESE LINE ITEMS WILL GO, AND IT'S PRETTY WELL. SPELLED OUT IN THE. EACH OF THE AREAS SO AGAIN CURRICULUM INSTRUCTION AND ASSESSMENT IS LISTED EDUCATION SERVICES FACILITIES OPERATIONS, AND THAT WOULD FOLD INTO THAT SECTION OF THE BUDGET. SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE FY 23 BUDGET, WHICH IS VERY DETAILED ONLINE, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THE LINE ITEM DETAILS AND WHERE THOSE THINGS MAY GO, BUT WE COULD CERTAINLY RESPOND TO QUESTIONS.

PEOPLE HAD SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE WOULD FIND THIS. WHERE WOULD THIS GO WITHIN THE BUDGET? THANK YOU APPRECIATE THAT. SURE. WE HAVE TIME? YEAH YEAH,

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I'M NOT HERE TO FILIBUSTER LIKE IF I HAD A LINE BY LINE BREAKDOWN, UM WHAT I WOULD DO IS I WOULD LOOK AT, UM. SO, DR PAULSON I KNOW THAT YOU'RE VERY BIG ON PRE K. I'M RIGHT THERE WITH YOU ON THAT ONE. I'M VERY BIG ON ON THAT INITIATIVE. UM I'M ALSO HUGE ON INFANTS AND COLLARS. AND I WOULD WANT TO SEE YOU KNOW WHAT SHIFT WAS GOING TO IF IT'S INTOLERANT BECAUSE OF LESS I PS THAT FEED INTO THE SYSTEM IMMEDIATELY. OBVIOUSLY YOU KNOW, IT'S LESS SPECIAL EDUCATORS. YOU KNOW, IT HELPS A FULL ALL OUT STREAM. AND THAT'S JUST KIND OF WHY I WAS LOOKING FOR THE LINE BY LINE, BECAUSE THAT WAS KIND OF LIKE THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO ME FOR YOU KNOW THE NEXT 12 YEARS IN THE FALL ALL OUT DEVELOPMENT. I MEAN, IF HE'S DIRECTLY INTO THE NORTH STAR SO, UM, THAT'S WHY I WAS INTERESTED IN THE LINE BY LINE. YEAH, THE I MEAN. A LOT OF WHAT'S DRIVING THIS BUDGET SO I CAN TALK A LITTLE BIT. ABOUT WHAT? YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE BUDGET. WE'VE DONE JUST AN OVERVIEW, BUT SOME MORE COMMENTS ABOUT IT. A LOT OF WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS DRIVEN BY THE DO ITEMS FROM THE BLUEPRINT. BECAUSE THERE'S A VERY HEAVY LIFTED. THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT ARE ACTUALLY PASTORS FROM THE BLUEPRINT DEB MISJUDGED HAS SHARED THOSE BUT IT GETS LOST IN ALL THE THINGS WE SAY, UM, SO, FOR EXAMPLE, PRIK IS IT HUGE BLUEPRINT ITEMS, SO THERE'S A LOT GOING INTO THAT. UM, BUT THERE'S ALSO STILL A LOT. WE NEED HELP FIGURING OUT FROM THE STATE WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO THERE, SO YOU KNOW LIKE I ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT DOING MORE WITH THAT. UM BUT IT'S SOMETIMES HARD TO TEASE OUT WHERE THOSE THINGS FIT BECAUSE AGAIN, SOME OF WHAT HAPPENS WITH PRE K IS IN OUR IN GRANTS BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A PRE K EXPANSION GRANT FOR YEARS, BUT ONE THING WE STRUGGLED WITH IS WHEN THE GRANT EXPIRES THEN WE HAVE TO PICK IT UP BECAUSE IT WAS ALWAYS ONE YEAR AT A TIME. THERE, GIVE ME A LOOK. HE'S GOING TO JUMP. AND IF I GET OFF BASE A LITTLE, BUT SO SOME OF IT IS, YOU KNOW, TEASING OUT WHERE THE MONEY IS. IT'S HARD TO SEE. UM BUT ANOTHER THING THAT YOU SEE IN THIS BUDGET IS IN ANOTHER BIG QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS IS YOU'VE HEARD MISS JOHN TALKED ABOUT THE MOVING OVER FROM RESTRICTED. SO THIS IS MY EDITORIAL ON ON SOME OF THOSE POSITIONS THAT WE'RE MOVING OVER BECAUSE I KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A LOT BEEN DISCUSSED. UM. WHEN YOU ADD UP ALL THE MONEY THAT CAME FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DURING COVID, AND THOSE ARE REALLY THE THREE BIG CHUNKS OF MONEY THAT CAME OUR WAY. WE HAD NEARLY $90 MILLION UM AND. THERE'S ONLY SO MANY ONE TIME THINGS YOU CAN BUY WITH $90 MILLION, AND EVERY TIME OUR FOLKS WENT OUT INTO SCHOOLS.

WHETHER IT WAS WHEN WE WERE WHEN WE WERE CLOSED TO STUDENTS OR EVEN RIGHT AFTER WE OPENED. UM WHAT WAS VERY EVIDENT IS WHAT ARE SCHOOLS NEEDED WAS MORE PEOPLE IN FRONT OF THE KIDS. AND EVEN THOUGH IT'S WE KNOW. I MEAN, WE'VE KNOWN THIS FOREVER. IT'S NEVER A GREAT STRATEGY TO DO POSITIONS WITH TAX DOLLARS OR WITH GRANT DOLLARS RESTRICTED MONEY GRANT DOLLARS THAT ARE GOING TO EXPIRE NEEDS AND CURRENT, AND FRANKLY, THERE'S STILL KIND OF THE NEEDS. UM SAID SPENDING MONEY TO USE ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HAD A LOT TO SAY ABOUT WE DIDN'T NEED TO BUY $10 MILLION MORE WORTH OF MASKS OR HAND SANITIZER, RIGHT? I MEAN, THAT WASN'T I MEAN THERE WAS A LOT OF MONEY AND THERE WERE REASONS YOU KNOW, THE MONEY WAS SORT OF FLOODED IN, BUT, UM, WHAT WE NEEDED WAS PEOPLE. AND WE KNEW THAT IF WE HAVE A COMMUNITY THAT CAN'T FUND THOSE PEOPLE UM, THAT'S SOMETHING WE MAY HAVE TO CONFRONT AT THE END OF THIS BUDGET. BUT THE SAME TIME THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE IN FRONT OF KIDS EVERY DAY. AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS RIGHT NOW OUR CLASS SIZES ARE SMALLER THAN THEY'VE BEEN IN OUR HISTORY. UM AND WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE SERVING KIDS DIRECTLY ON THE FRONT LINE. SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET AS IT'S BEEN SUMMARIZED AGAIN. MOST OF THOSE POSITIONS ARE IN THE CLASSROOM. AND SO THAT'S GOING TO BE A QUESTION. IS WE'VE DESCRIBED IN OTHER SETTINGS 80. 4 85% OF OUR BUDGET IS, UM PEOPLE LIKE SALARIES AND BENEFITS. 70 SOME ODD PERCENT IS FRONTLINE 75 6% OF FRONTLINE INSTRUCTION. UM. SO TO MAKE ANY SIGNIFICANT CUTS IN THE BUDGET. BASICALLY MEANS TAKING SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE BACK OUT AND HAVING THAT HAVING AN IMPACT, SO I UNDERSTAND, CP. I, UM AND THEY WERE KIND OF IN THIS PLACE. UM YOU KNOW, GOING IN ADDRESSING 9.1% INFLATION? IT IS.

CONCERNING UM BUT ALSO TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. WOULD MEAN. THE QUESTION OF WHETHER WE'RE

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CUTTING 200 POSITIONS. AND SO THAT'S WHERE THAT'S WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO STRIKE THE RIGHT BALANCE BETWEEN WHAT IS THE INCREASE? WE CAN GET PEOPLE TO STAY AS WHOLE AS POSSIBLE. AND WHAT IS IT WITH HIS POSITIONS? BECAUSE I KNOW THOSE PERCEPTIONS ABOUT THE TOP HEAVINESS OF THE DISTRICT. BUT YOU CAN SEE IN THE BASIC SUMMARY OF THIS BUDGET 3. OF ALL OF OUR NET SALARIES BENEFITS. EVERYTHING GOES TO ADMINISTRATION 3% OF THIS BUDGET. YOU KNOW WHEN YOU HAVE 3000 TEACHERS. AND THEN YOU ADD TO THAT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR COUNT AS AN ESP SITS AROUND 1000. THERE. IT OTHER SUPPORT. AND THEN WHEN YOU ADD BUS DRIVERS WE HAVE BETWEEN FIVE AND 6 6000 EMPLOYEES. YOU'RE ALREADY AT PEOPLE WHO ARE DEALING WITH AND WHEN I SAY STRAIGHT LINE INSTRUCTION, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ALL THE BUS DRIVERS WERE EMPLOYING. UM SO THIS IS THE SCALE AND, UM, THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH AN S THAT TRADE OFF BETWEEN GETTING SALARIES, RIGHT? AND YOU KNOW, WE'VE HEARD FOR YEARS THAT THIS THIS COMMUNITY REALLY VALUES THE SMALLER CLASS SIZES AND, FRANKLY, HAS SOMETHING PUBLIC SCHOOLS ALWAYS STRUGGLE WITH. BECAUSE, UM YOU KNOW, I USED TO SAY WHEN I WAS A PRINCIPAL YOU KNOW WE CAN OFFER A LOT OF SERVICES IN OUR SCHOOLS, BUT I CAN'T COMPETE WITH PRIVATE SCHOOLS ON CLASS SIZE. UM AND THAT'S WE'RE JUST NOT FUNDED AT THAT SAME LEVEL TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO THE BIGGEST CONSIDERATION. SALARY AND. YOU CAN BOIL IT DOWN TO CLASS SIZE BECAUSE THAT'S PEOPLE AND IT'S CLASSROOM PEOPLE. UM EVERYONE IS NOT IN A CLASSROOM MAKES UP SUCH A SMALL SMALL PERCENTAGE. I MEAN, NOT IN A CLASSROOM. NOT DIRECTLY SERVING KIDS. SO FOOD NUTRITION IS A GOOD CHUNK. BUS DRIVERS. ANOTHER BIG CHUNK, YOU KNOW, CLASSROOM DSPS TEACHERS. SO WHEN YOU START LOOKING AT ADMINISTRATION, THAT PERCENTAGES ARE SMALL, BUT I KNOW THESE PERCEPTIONS ARE OUT THERE. AND THEN, AS I SAID, ALSO THE THAT. THE BLUEPRINT WORK WE THERE IS MORE MONEY COMING FROM THE STATE THIS YEAR, IN FACT, UM WE'LL GET WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN FINAL NUMBERS ARE SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN THIS WEEK. WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS WHAT WE HAVE ESTIMATED OURSELVES BASED ON THE INFORMATION. WE HAVE NO FINALS NOT FINAL UNTIL THE BEST WE HAVE IN TERMS OF FINAL ESTIMATES FROM THE STATE, SO YEAH, THEY'VE GIVEN US TOOLS TO CALCULATE BASED ON WHAT THEY SEE COMING THIS YEAR, BUT THEY HAVEN'T SAID. HERE'S WHAT WE EXPECT YOU TO GET. AND SO. AGAIN. A PART OF THIS CONVERSATION IS THAT THE STATE. IS GIVING US. WE'RE EXPECTING A LARGER INCREASE IN THE STATE THAN WE'VE SEEN IN SOME TIME. AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE VERY CLEARLY REQUIRED BY THE BLUEPRINT, OTHER THINGS OR THINGS THAT ARE INTERPRETATION OF WHAT'S REQUIRES THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF THE BLUEPRINT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT ALWAYS SPELLED OUT EXACTLY. BUT THEN THE OTHER YOU KNOW, A LITTLE MORE THAN HALF STILL COMES FROM LOCAL GOVERNMENT SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S OFFERING ANY SORT OF THOUGHT OR INSIGHT, BUT THAT ACTUALLY CLARIFIES A WHOLE LOT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT DETAILED EXPLANATION, BECAUSE LITERALLY YOU ALL OF MY PRECONCEIVED NOTIONS. BASICALLY DISSOLVED. SO OBVIOUSLY I DON'T WANT TO SEE TEACHERS. LOSE YOUR JOB. I JUST APPRECIATE THEM SO MUCH IF YOU SAW HOW MUCH MY YOUNGEST MY FIVE YEAR OLD HAS COME FROM ALL THE ADDITIONAL TOOLS, YOU KNOW, WE MOVED UP HERE JUST FOR THE SCHOOLS. AND MY YOUNGEST WITH SPECIAL NEEDS HAS COME SO FAR. GIVE THESE TEACHERS A MILLION DOLLARS. I WOULD, BUT OBVIOUSLY I CAN'T DO THAT. BUT OBVIOUSLY I CARE ABOUT THEM JUST AS MUCH AS THEY CARE ABOUT MY DAUGHTER. AND IF THERE'S ANY WAY TO REFLECT THAT, I'M SURE YOU ALL WOULD, TOO, AS WELL. BUT OF COURSE WE DON'T WANT TO SHOOT SOMEONE ELSE THAT DOOR IN ORDER TO DO THAT. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR CLARIFYING. YEAH AGAIN. I CAN SPEAK IN THOSE KINDS OF GENERALITIES AND I RELY ON THESE GUYS TO KNEEL ME WHEN I GET OFF TRACK, BUT UM, I MEAN, THOSE ARE THE BIG BIG PICTURE PIECES, SO I'M GLAD THAT THAT HELPS.

SOMETIMES WE SKIP OVER THE BASICS, NOT IT'S HARD TO KNOW. UM HOW TO FRAME IT SOMETIMES BECAUSE IT'S JUST SO MUCH TO SUMMARIZE. I SEE. DIDN'T YOU GO FILL SOMETHING OUT? I THINK AT THIS NOW, GO AHEAD. JUST THINK AT THIS POINT, I THINK WE NEED A CAR DOWN. YEAH, PROBABLY. IT'S OKAY. YES IT'S ABBY BENNETT. BUT UM SO I FIGURED I SHOULD SAY SOMETHING SINCE I'M HERE. WHICH

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IS WHY I WROTE THIS WHILE I'M HERE. MY NAME IS ABBY BENNETT AND I'M A PARENT EDUCATOR AND A PRE K CLASSROOM. A FEW THINGS. I'M THINKING ABOUT THE BUDGET. I'M ASKING THAT YOU TAKE CARE OF OUR EDUCATORS AND STAFF THIS PAST WEEKEND I PAID 3 99 FOR A CARTON OF EGGS. AND THAT WAS THAT ALL THESE DISCOUNT GROCERY STORE BECAUSE MY PAYCHECK IS UNDER $1000 EVERY TWO WEEKS.

LET'S THINK ABOUT THAT FOR A MINUTE. GOING TO THE GROCERY STORE TRULY SHOWS THE IMPACT OF INFLATION. WE NEED A LARGE COST OF LIVING INCREASE FOR ALL OF OUR STAFF. I AM ALSO ASKING THAT WE WORK TO MAKE CAVITY GRACE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WHERE I WORK. A PRIORITY FOR FULL DAY PRE K FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, AND I COULD BE WRONG. I'M LOW ON THE TOTEM POLE, BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THIS WOULD REQUIRE PROVIDING ANOTHER PORTABLE, UM, IN ORDER TO FREE UP CLASSROOM SPACE. WE ARE CURRENTLY THE ONLY TITLE ONE SCHOOL THAT HAS A HALF DAY PROGRAM FOR OUR PRE K STUDENTS. I HAVE STUDENTS WHO ARRIVE AT 1 30 IN THE AFTERNOON. HUNGARY. OF COURSE, WE KEEP SNACKS IN THE CLASSROOM. WE TAKE CARE OF OUR KIDS. IT'S WHAT WE DO BY NATURE. BUT THESE STUDENTS SHOULD BE RECEIVING FREE MEALS JUST LIKE THEIR PEERS AND OTHER TITLE ONE SCHOOLS ACROSS THE COUNTY. AND IF WE WERE FULL DAY THEY WILL BE GETTING LUNCH AND BREAKFAST. LASTLY I'M ALSO AN E S. P ON THE PD COMMITTEE WITH CINDY. AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ASK FOR AN ESP TO BE ADDED TO OUR PD OFFICE. WE ARE PROFESSIONALS IN OUR NAME AND WOULD LIKE TO BE GIVEN PD JUST LIKE ARE CERTIFICATED. HERE'S THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JUST GOING TO SAY SUSIE TINA. TO GO BACK TO MAKE SURE YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE EGGS SITTING OUT SO PEOPLE CAN SEE THEM THROUGH THE WINDOWS OF YOUR CAR. RIGHT OKAY , SOMETHING SOMEONE TOLD ME THEY ACTUALLY GONE UP AGAIN, AND THEY'RE CLOSER TO FIVE NOW. THERE'S AN EGG SHORTAGE ALSO. FIVE AND A QUARTER.

NEVER HAVE. WE ANNOUNCED THAT AS YET. NEXT YEAR. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. IF WE CAN PUBLISH SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL. CAN WE TALK ABOUT THAT AT ALL? I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE THE PEOPLE HERE FOR THIS MEETING. I DON'T HAVE THE STAFF BECAUSE THIS IS NOT A BUT I CAN WRITE THE QUESTIONS DOWN AND GO THROUGH HERE. SURE. THAT'S PART OF THE BLUEPRINT RIGHT? THAT'S PART OF IT IS, BUT WE HAVE UNTIL 2026 TO FULFILL IT SO. I'M CURIOUS WHERE WE ARE ON THE NEXT ROLL OUT BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S BUDGETED. MHM. AND THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL FOR ABBY. THAT YOU'RE AWARE OF. BECAUSE HE JUST SAID, SURE, YEAH. OH, HIS IS PART OF THAT SPACE AVAILABILITY.

IT'S A PORTABLE, SHE SAID. THE PORTABLE SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SCHOOLS ARE THAT HAVE BEEN SELECTED. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THE HIT PARADE IS ALL TITLE ONE. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT THOSE DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE. SO THAT'S WHAT I ASKED DR BOLSON, SO I CAN EXTEMPORIZE PRE K A LITTLE BIT. UM BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF THE TRICKIER THINGS IN THE BLUEPRINT, AND SO I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH I WANT THIS RECORDED. BUT WHEN? WHEN THE BLUEPRINTS, PLEASE. OKAY. NO, I AM SO PRE K WAS ONE OF THE PRIMARY DRIVERS EARLY ON THE PERMIT. UH, WITH THE COMMISSION AND IT WAS A HUGE CONCERN, BUT IT WAS ALSO YOU KNOW WHAT SIGNIFICANT COST BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED IS AGAIN MY THEORY SO WHEN. THE LEGISLATION WAS INITIALLY CONSIDERED THE IDEA OS BECAUSE THE OPERATING BUDGET COVERS TO PAY FOR THE KIDS. AND SO WHEN YOU'RE SPENDING NUMBER OF KIDS IN, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE PAYING FOR MORE STUDENTS, AND THAT'S YOUR OPERATING BUDGET.

THAT'S YOUR YEAR TO YEAR. BUT WHAT WAS NOT CONSIDERED. AND WE KNEW THAT MEAN WAS NOT CONSIDERED WAS THE CAPITAL. THE FACT YOU KNOW, WE JUST WENT THROUGH BALANCING ENROLLMENT.

YOU KNOW, OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS ARE MOST CROWDED LEVEL WHERE THE DISTRICT OR ABOUT 93% CAPACITY,

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AND WHEN YOU THINK OF THE SHAPE THE MOVING AROUND AND STUFF THAT LAST, 7% DOESN'T GIVE YOU A LOT TO WORK WITH, IN TERMS OF ADDING ANYTHING UM PARTICULARLY IF YOU'RE A SCHOOL LIKE THE ONE MORE BOTH OF YOU. YOU'RE BOTH AT SCHOOLS THAT ARE KIND OF AT THE EDGE AND UM AND. THEN WHEN THEY WERE TRYING TO GET THE BILL FINALIZED. THEY LOOKED AT THIS ESTIMATE OF WHAT THE CAPITAL WAS GOING TO COST THEM. THEY WENT BACK IN THE ROOM AND THEY WORKED OUT. OKAY HERE'S WHAT WE'LL DO.

INSTEAD OF PUTTING IT IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOLS WILL COME UP WITH A SOLUTION WHERE 70% WILL BE DELIVERED IN PRIVATE SETTINGS BY PRIVATE PROVIDERS AND THE OTHER 30 WILL HELP GROW THE CAPACITY.

UM AND THAT WAS A WORKAROUND TO HELP THE LEGISLATION PASSED AND HELP ESSENTIALLY LOWER THAN OVERALL COST OF THE LEGISLATION. BUT UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT'S COME TO PASS SINCE THEN, IS. THE STRUCTURE OF WHAT WAS WRITTEN INTO THE LAW. HAS NOT BEEN APPEALING TO PRIVATE PROVIDERS.

WE KNOW THERE ARE PRIVATE PROVIDERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE DOING THIS WHO, BUT THERE ARE THERE ARE A LOT OF THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS AND COSTS BUILT INTO WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO TO BE ELIGIBLE TO DO THIS, AND SO IT'S NOT REALLY COST EFFECTIVE FOR PRIVATE PROVIDER. TO KIND OF COME IN. AND SO WE'RE IN THIS PLACE WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THE BUILDINGS. WE DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY TO BUILD THE ADDITIONAL SPACE WE NEEDED. UM WE DON'T HAVE THE PRIVATE PROVIDERS STEPPING UP TO OFFER THE CAPACITY WE NEED. AND SO WE'RE SCRAMBLING TO TRY TO FIND ADDITIONAL CAPACITY WITHIN OUR BUILDINGS. AS WE KNOW THAT'S LIMITED. SO AGAIN. WE'RE KIND OF CAUGHT IN. WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH UM. HOW WE EITHER CHANGES THAT CAN BE MADE TO MAKE THIS MORE APPEALING FOR PRIVATE PROVIDERS , WHICH WOULD THEN GIVE US MORE SPACE TO WORK WITH. AND THERE'S THINGS AND THERE'S SOME. WE HAVE SOME RESPONSIBILITY AND SORT OF . THIS IS A VERY NEW THING FOR PUBLIC SCHOOLS. NOW THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME RESPONSIBILITY ON US TO MANAGE THESE PRIVATE PROVIDERS INTO ATTRACT THEM. BUT WE DON'T GET TO CHANGE ANY OF THE RULES. AND SO, UM, THAT IN ITSELF IS A IS GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE MOVING FORWARD IN TERMS OF MEETING THE NEED.

BECAUSE THE OTHER THING THAT'S HAPPENING IS THERE WERE THE. UM POPULATION OF STUDENTS FOR SERVING IN PRE K. HAS A SCHEDULE. MEANING EACH YEAR. SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S A THERE'S A THERE'S ESSENTIALLY ECONOMIC. FAMILY EARNINGS CUT OFF LIKE WHERE YOU ARE IN POVERTY WITH REGARD TO HOW ELIGIBLE YOU ARE FOR ONE OF THE SEATS. WELL THAT THRESHOLD IS CHANGING SO THE POVERTY LEVEL IS. AS WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT NOW, NOT JUST ONE TIME, PROBABLY LEVEL BUT MAYBE TWO TIMES OR THREE TIMES. UM YOU KNOW SO MORE PEOPLE WILL BE ELIGIBLE TO ATTEND. THAT SCHEDULE HASN'T CHANGED. SO THE POPULATION IS GROWING, BUT WE HAVEN'T ADDRESSED THE CAPITAL SIDE. WE HAVE AN ADDRESS. WHERE ARE THEY GOING? WE DON'T HAVE THE PRIVATE SPACE AND THE PUBLIC SPACE. VERY LIKELY WILL BE A LOT OF PORTABLES AT SOME POINT WHEN WE WHEN WE WHEN WE GET TO THAT, BUT THAT'S UM AGAIN. THESE ARE AMONG THE THINGS THAT YOU KNOW, WE'RE ADVOCATING FOR THE STATE SIDE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF ALL OF THIS, BUT THE SOLUTIONS HAVE EMERGED NOR HAS NECESSARILY UNDERSTANDING OF HOW MUCH THIS WILL REALLY COST BECAUSE, LIKE I SAID, I THINK THAT WAS A COMPROMISE MADE EARLY ON TO MAKE THE LEGISLATION ON A LITTLE MORE PALATABLE. BUT IN THE END IT DIDN'T PRODUCE A SOLUTION THAT IS MAKING IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO MEET THE DEADLINES IN TERMS OF HAVING ALL THESE STUDENTS COME IN, SO WE'RE GOING TO KEEP DOING WHAT WE HAVE TO BRING THEM IN. BUT THERE'S STILL SOME QUESTION MARKS IN FUTURE YEARS. AND THE QUESTION IS WILL SOME OF THIS START TO BE A PROBLEM FOR THE SCHEDULED CAPITAL THAT WE HAVE? BECAUSE WE HAVE A LIST? YOU KNOW, THAT LIST STAYS FAIRLY SIMILAR FROM YEAR TO YEAR. WE SET OUR PRIORITIES AND THERE'S A VERY RIGOROUS PROCESS WE GO THROUGH TO SET THE PRIORITIES FOR WHAT WE WANT ASKED FOREIGN CAPITAL BUT EXPANDING. IT'S PRE K IS KIND OF BEEN A BLUEPRINT THAT'S BEEN ON THE SIDE AND IT HASN'T REALLY BEEN INCORPORATED IN BECAUSE THAT FUNDING IS SUPPOSED TO COME FROM ELSEWHERE. AND IT HASN'T SO. YES THE NEEDS OF ADDRESSING THE FREAK GROWING ENROLLMENT STARTS. SQUEEZING OUT OTHER THINGS. WE HAVE A CAPITAL CHALLENGE TO CONFRONT TOO SO IT'S A LOT UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE WE'VE. I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE STAND. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THREE YEARS AGO WE WERE 24TH IN THE STATE IN TERMS OF APPROVAL SPENDING. IT'S STILL A LOT OF MONEY. I MEAN, YOU COULD BE 24TH OF 24. AND STILL SPEND MORE THAN HALF A BILLION DOLLARS. BUT. I THINK WE GET A LOT DONE FOR YOU KNOW? THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY. UM BUT

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THAT SAID, THAT'S THE PLACE WE'RE IN. SO YES, WE KNOW REVENUES UP A LITTLE IN THE STATE AND REVENUE AND A COUNTY IS A LITTLE A LITTLE MORE FLAT, AND I THINK EVERYONE IS CONCERNED. AS YOU SAID, MR HEUSER, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TOUGHER TIMES. WE HEAR THAT FROM JUST ABOUT EVERY ECONOMIST OUT THERE. AND SO. YOU KNOW, HEARING FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT SOME OF THESE BECAUSE THESE ARE VERY REAL THINGS. I MEAN, BECAUSE THE SALARIES ARE REAL, AS ARE THE POSITIONS. BECAUSE. IF WE WERE TO INCREASE SALARIES AND CUT 200 TEACHERS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

THE TEACHERS WOULD NOTICE THAT TOO. AND THE SPS WOULD NOTICE THAT TOO, BECAUSE, UM, THEY RECOGNIZE THE NEED FOR HAVING THOSE PEOPLE AROUND THEM. AND THAT'S A HARD THING TO ASK PEOPLE TO HAVE TO. CONSIDER MR CARDI. IF YOU'RE FINISHED, I WAS GOING TO BRING A LITTLE START. I MEAN, NONE OF THIS WAS PLANNED. SO WE'RE WE'VE GOT 19 MORE MINUTES. GO AHEAD TO MAKE A REQUEST. UM UM, THAT SOMEONE FROM JOHN ARCHER OR SOMEONE? I UNDERSTAND A LOT OF HER QUESTION , BUT I KNOW THERE'S A RESPONSE THAT WE COULD GIVE HER AND A LOT OF THE COMMENTS SHE MADE ABOUT JOHN ARCHER AND WORRYING ABOUT ROADS AND I'M WONDERING IF SOMEBODY COULD GIVE HER A CALL AND HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH HER. ABSOLUTELY I MEAN, ONLY GOT THREE PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT SO I MEAN, FOR NOTHING IS CHANGED GIRL. AS I SAID TO MR DR PHILLIPS, NOTHING HAS CHANGED WITH WELL, UM WITH WHAT WE WERE DOING THERE. THAT'S SO THE SCHEDULE IS IT HAS BEEN HOMESTEAD WAKEFIELD PROGRESS ON THE ROAD TO THAT SHE MADE IT NOT . BUT WHAT'S HAPPENED WITH HOMESTEAD WAKEFIELD? THAT ROAD HAS HAD ZERO IMPACT ON THE WORK FOR THE CAMPUS HILLS ACADEMY BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION. THERE'S STILL ONLINE. UM THAT WE DO HAVE SOME STUMBLING BLOCKS WITH HOMESTEAD WAKEFIELD. BUT THERE STILL, IT'S STILL MOVING FORWARD IN CHINA, ARCHER IS STILL A PRIORITY CALL. UM. OPERATIONS YEAH, YEAH, THE OPERATIONS TEAM DID THAT PRESENTATION. I WANT TO SAY I'LL COVER NOVEMBER, WHERE THEY SHOWED THE THREE MAJOR CONCEPTS FOR THE NEW SCHOOL. AND SO I MEAN, THE PLANNING IS VERY MUCH GOING ON AND PROGRESSING. MAYBE THAT'S RANDY. I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD OR BUT WHO COULD WHO COULD HAVE THAT CONVERSATION NATION WITH HER? WE CAN FIND SOMEBODY. THAT IS I MEAN NOT TO PLAY FAVORITES, BUT THAT IS THE BEST SCHOOL IN THE DISTRICT TO VISIT. YOU KNOW, I'VE DONE THAT MANY TIMES. AND I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO SPENT A LOT OF TIME THERE. WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT GOES ON THERE. AND THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THEY'RE DOING IT NOW THAT WE DON'T APPRECIATE EVERY OTHER PLACE, BUT IT IS A VERY SPECIAL PLACE. AND MR GEIER IS A BIG PART OF HELPING PEOPLE FEEL THA. YES, THANK YOU. HARTFORD ACADEMY. YES. MY APOLOGIES. DR WILSON. HARVARD ACADEMY IS IN THE CAPITAL REQUEST FOR FY 24 FOR THE PLANNING AND DESIGN STAGE. RIGHT AND I MEAN THAT SOUNDS. THAT'S THE SAME SCHEDULE WITH PLANNING AND DESIGN WITH A COMPLETION ANTICIPATED COMPLETION DATE OF 28 IS THAT RIGHT? I DON'T KNOW THAT. SORRY MR BROWN ISN'T HERE. THE HOMESTEAD WAKEFIELD. COMPLETION DATE IS LIKELY TO GO FURTHER.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT DOESN'T BUMP ANYTHING ELSE. THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF THE POINT.

THAT WAS THAT'S WHY I WAS HOPING SOMEBODY WOULD GET BACK TO HER BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF QUESTIONS CAN NOT BE WHAT SHE WANTS TO HEAR. BUT AT LEAST SHE'LL UNDERSTAND WHERE WHERE WE STAND. SO THANK YOU. SO I THINK THAT THE COMPLETION DATE IS 26 26 26 DESIGN, BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO SEE YOU. FINE IT'S 26 ONLY BECAUSE IF YOU RECALL THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAD ABOUT BALANCING ENROLLMENT. THAT WE'RE DEFERRING SOME OF THE ELEMENTARY MOVES UNTIL 26 SO THAT WE CAN INCORPORATE THE NEW CAPACITY IN THE BUILDING. TO FINALIZE. WHICH MEANS THAT THIS BOARD THAT JUST GOT ELECTED IS ALL GOING TO GET TO BE PART OF THAT CONVERSATION. UH UM. WHEN WE WORK ON ADDRESSING THE BOUNDARIES TO INCORPORATE A NEW SCHOOL. SO BELIEVE IST I HAD WAS HOMESTEAD

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WAKEFIELD. IT STILL MIGHT BE POSSIBLE TO MOVE IN FALL OF 2025 . THE ORIGINAL DATE WAS FALL. 24 YEAH, GOT PUSHED OFF A YEAR MEANT TO BE A TWO YEAR YEAH. BUT THEN WE'LL BE BRINGING NEXT CALL ONLINE A YEAR LATER. I DON'T WANNA BE RUDE OR ANYTHING. I JUST HAVE A QUESTION, PLEASE. YEAH, WELL, WE BE ABLE TO SEE A LINE BY LINE ACCOUNTING OF LIKE EVERYTHING BEFORE WE APPROVE THE BUDGET. WILL THAT BE AVAILABLE FOR US TO SEE WE TYPICALLY DON'T PREPARE THAT FOR THIS PORTION OF THE BUDGET, SO ONCE IT'S PREPARED, WE HAVE THAT AND WE SHARE THAT DETAIL. SO AGAIN, WE CAN SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND GO THROUGH. CURRENT BUDGET AND ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. WE CAN SHOW WHERE THOSE PARTICULAR EDITIONS THAT IS PROPOSED WOULD FALL WITHIN THE BUDGET. OKAY I KNOW I HAD TO RESCHEDULE. I'M SORRY. UM, I JUST HAVE YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF NEW POSITIONS AND STUFF, SO I DON'T KNOW. I JUST WANTED TO YOU KNOW, SEE WHERE ALL THOSE NEW POSITIONS AND EVERYTHING I GUESS BOILED DOWN TO IT IN CASE CUTS NEED TO BE MADE, SO WE KNOW WHAT NEEDS TO BE CUT SO THAT WE CAN EFFICIENTLY. YOU KNOW? UM SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO CUT TEACHERS POSITIONS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BECAUSE THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY ESSENTIAL. WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. UNDERSTOOD I MEAN, YEAH, I MEAN, THE CONVERSATION. WILL YOU KNOW IF WE GET TO A PLACE WHERE YOU KNOW WE'RE NOT FULLY FUNDED. WE HAVEN'T HAD THIS CONVERSATION A FEW YEARS, SO, UM, BUT THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH THAT, BECAUSE WE YOU KNOW? FOR THE 11 YEARS PRIOR TO THE FY 20 BUDGET. UM. WHICH WAS THE FIRST BUDGET I WAS ON FOR THE 11 YEARS PRIOR, ACTUALLY, INCLUDING THE 20 BUDGET. WE CUT POSITIONS FOR 11 YEARS STRAIGHT. SO WE BEGAN EACH SUBSEQUENT YEAR WITH FEWER PEOPLE WORKING IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM. THEN WE HAD THE YEAR BEFORE. SINCE 2020. WE HAVE BEEN ADDING BACK, BUT WE'VE ALSO HAD BETTER FINANCIAL CIRCUMSTANCES FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS. AH! ALL RIGHT. UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S A LOT OF EXPERIENCE HERE. CUTTING POSITIONS WERE HOPING NOT TO HAVE TO YOU KNOW? DRAW ON THAT EXPERIENCE TOO MUCH. BUT SO NORMALLY, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WITH THAT IS WE MIGHT GET AN INDICATION OF IT ONCE THEY CAN'T EXECUTIVE.

RELEASES HIS BUDGET, WHICH IS MID APRIL. OF COURSE, NOTHING IS FINALIZED UNTIL THE COUNCIL ULTIMATELY VOTES SO WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO MAKE FINAL DECISIONS UNTIL EARLY JUNE, MOST LIKELY SO IT IT. IT DEFINITELY COULD BE A VERY BUSY TIME. ONCE IT'S VOTED ON BY THE COUNCIL. BUT AGAIN, WE'LL HAVE. SOME LEAD TIME TO DEVELOP CONTINGENCY PLANS WHEN WE SEE THE COUNTY EXECUTIVES BUDGET. MS POPE. I'M GOING TO TELL YOU. YOU TELL DR WILLIAMS YOU WERE QUOTING HIM IN OUR BUDGET MEETING. MAKES SENSE. NO QUESTION. PROVIDING TRAINING IN THOSE SORTS OF THINGS ARE ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL, BUT THAT TAKES PEOPLE. TO YES. BE PROFESSIONAL HELP. I'M GUESSING HE KNEW HIS AUDIENCE. I WANT TO SAY 11 MINUTES LEFT. I REALLY DO WANT TO THANK THE PEOPLE THAT CAME TONIGHT, AND ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO SPOKE BECAUSE I DEFINITELY WAS SERIOUS LAST MEETING WHEN I SAID I WANTED YOU HERE. THIS IS THIS IS LIKE AWKWARD MOMENTS.

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NO. NOW IT'S LIKE WATCHING PAINT DRY. HMM. IT IS. DOCTOR MILLER. WE CAN REMIND THE PUBLIC AGAIN THAT BUDGET HTTPS .ORG CAN EMAIL US IF THEY THINK OF SOMETHING THIS EVENING AFTER HEARING THIS OR WATCHING IT. EMAIL US. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT REMINDER. VERY SIMPLE. EMAIL ADDRESS BUDGET AT HCPS .ORG. VERY SIMPLE. THANKS, MARY. VERY NEXT.

THAT MEAL. WE WANT TO DO WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE WE HAVE RECEIVED EMAILS FROM CERTAIN PEOPLE AND GODS TO THE BUDGET. WAS THERE SOMETHING IN PARTICULAR YOU THERE WERE TWO THAT WERE RECEIVED TALKED TO WELL TODAY ABOUT THOSE TWO AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER EVERYBODY ELSE SAID WE'VE SEEN THEM OR SAW THEM. I THINK THEY WOULD HAVE GONE TO ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS AND I GET THEM. YES GENERALLY WENT. SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THOSE COME IN ? AS I SEND THEM OUT TO DEBORAH, LIKE WHOEVER I THINK WILL BE MOST DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE. UM BUT YEAH, I THINK. OH YEAH. I JUST WANT THEM. THE INDIVIDUAL MAY BE LISTENING. JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE ARE SEEING THE TWO EMAILS. YEAH THEY WILL BE GETTING INFORMATION BACK WHEN I TALKED TO DEBRA THAT SHE SAID SHE HAD NOT SEEN HIM SO I HAVE THEM THIS AFTERNOON. TYPICALLY IF THERE'S QUESTIONS, WE WILL RESPOND THAT IF IT'S FEEDBACK AND COMMENTS, WE TAKE THAT AND SUMMARIZE THAT FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER. UM, IN THERE. CONSIDERATION OF THE BUDGET. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

DIFFERENCE. WORK OUT SOMETHING. OKAY?

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SO I JUST WANT TO TAKE THESE LIST FEW MOMENTS TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR PARTICIPATING THIS EVENING. WE DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THE COMMUNITY'S CONTRIBUTIONS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE BUDGET PROCESS. UM WE WILL MAKE A FINAL DECISION ABOUT THE PROPOSED BUDGET AT THE BOARD BUSINESS MEETINGS SCHEDULED FOR MONDAY, FEBRUARY 13TH 2023 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOU

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